I love the show/hide automation function for normal track operations but on my vst using multi-outputs…
Clicking hide all automation actually reveals the output lanes
Clicking show all automation actually hides them.
Just tested it and seems to more or less work as expected, here. I say ‘more or less’ because it’s actually rather confusing…
Using an instrument track with HSE3 configured as having two different outputs :
Show automation (header track icon) shows both outputs
Hide automation (header track icon) hide them.
Show/Hide automation (Right-click menu) : same behaviors.
BUT… Using Hide all automation actually shows the outputs (or keep them displayed). I guess that this is because the output lanes, even if displayed like automation ones are actually more than that : they are linked to an audio stream (a given output of the multitimbral synth - there is an Edit channel button appearing with the default track control settings).
So, what could seems strange at first can’t be truely considered as a bug, IMO. The whole thing is consistent, as pure automation lanes are actually hidden when needed : this is checkable, adding in example an automation lane to one of the multi instrument outputs . The Show all used automation command behavior can also be explained in the same way, I think.
Overall, yes, there is a rather confusing implementation of the commands related to automation lanes vs outputs ones, but it is consistent, somehow, as true automation lanes behave as expected. Usually, I never use the Hide all/Show all commands, from which I never noticed it until now, I admit…
Thanks for the reply. I don’t think clicking on ‘close all automation’ should be opening something else. That’s just not what I’m going for when I click on that.
It’s definitely a confusing implementation and one I’ll have to work around. I’ll train myself not to rely on that feature I guess.
@cubic13 it rather is a “bug”, because if you click “hide automation” on one instruments track, it will close multi-output tracks as we want - but Cubase opens them with “hide all automation”
@Delphi I have a workaround for this, maybe it will be usable for you too (just needed to remake it with Cubase 12 - thus why I was searching for the solution here first:P).
In the panel automation I checked “Used Only” (I don’t want to see unused automations either way). I don’t use any Cubase EQ automation (only EQ in the inserts) so when I’ll click show EQ automation it works exactly as I want and it hides all the automations - including instruments multi-outputs. On my metasystem I have it labeled as “Hide All automation” - it was so convincing I forgot it worked that way and was surprised to see a lot of EQs - who knows maybe I’ll help myself with this answer in the future
And to make it even more funny, with show all automation it’s not showing the automations on the outputs tracks, nor the outputtracks
It is a bummer with episodes, conforming and any fast (like you need to make something done and sent in 30 minutes) workflow with bigger projects/templates.
I posted this bug report earlier for Cubase 12. In the thread, Martin claims this issue was partially fixed(?).
There’s a brief step-by-step in the post that highlights some of the oddities with showing/hiding automation for Instrument Tracks with multiple outputs enabled.