[SOLVED] Beat Calculator Gone?

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Well now you can press down Shift and then hit spacebar.

But yes I don’t like the destructive way which changes project time upon tapping is finished, too.

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So silly. Keep the tap tempo and put back the beat calculator please. Having said that, I usually tap on a metronome app in my iPhone to find the tempo of a song. It’s much more accurate than the beat calculator ever was.

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This seems like a case of let’s change stuff for the sake of it. If any developer or beta tester sat down and tried the new function out, it would obviously transpire as utterly useless. Chocking that the change actually made it to release

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If we can be specific for the devs in what we’re looking for, I can’t speak for you, but for me personally, it needs to fulfill two criteria, not just one:

  1. Taps tempo without changing project tempo (as discussed in this thread)

  2. More important than #1, it needs to tell us the bpm of a selection. That way, on a freely recorded track that we’re trying to identify the exact tempo of, we can make a selection from the start of the first transient to the end of the bar, 2 bars, whatever…then calculate the tempo for that bar. Simply tapping the tempo won’t give us this result since there’s no way to get it that accurate.

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Hi,

Thank you for this post. This is helpful information.

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My pleasure - one more thing I’d like to add:

The calculation should not modify the tempo of an already recorded MIDI part, since the performance was already played and we’re trying to figure out what the exact tempo is - not what we’re trying to change the MIDI to. So if you could kindly ask the devs to maybe put a boolean in there that will become true if there’s MIDI already recorded on the track, then they can reference that if bool = true, change project tempo but leave MIDI tempo intact. Perhaps this boolean can be enabled right next to the calculate bpm button so that the user doesn’t have to go back and change their time modes on their tracks to avoid any unwanted tempo changes to the recorded material - or they can uncheck the box to have the recorded MIDI or Audio change to the new BPM if desired.

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The reasoning behind deleting a working, useful feature would be helpful information for the users as well.

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Please bring back the Beat Calculator. Often it takes quite a few measures of tapping, but there is nothing better than seeing 160.0 BPM show up and know you’ve found the correct BPM for a commercial song. I use this constantly when creating backing tracks for songs, or for calculating tempos of songs people send me who don’t know the BPM (but used a click track).

The Cubase 13 tap tempo function does not seem to calculate the tempo based on an average over time (please correct me if this is wrong). Instead, it jumps around and as mentioned, it changes the tempo of the song.

For my workflow, I’m not sure why I’d want to use Tempo Detection to create a tempo track with hundreds of tempo points between 154 and 179 or use the new tap button that doesn’t seem to create an average BPM when I can spend 30 seconds clicking the space bar using Beat Calculator and find out the song is in 160 BPM and change the tempo of the track to 160 and then align the song.

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I’m liking 13 so far and don’t want to whinge too much but this part of it is a poop show frankly. It’s one line in a menu, probably a couple lines of code. Just put it back and let’s move on.

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The developers don’t need any new information, just put the tool back. Was anyone complaining about the beat detection tool in the first place? I doubt it.

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Just adding my voice to this. Please bring back beat calculator. thank you

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Yes, bring the beat calculator back please.

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I need the functionality it used to have. please bring back

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I too used the beat calculator extensively and ask Steinberg to return it to C13 in the next update.

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I too, would urge Steinberg to bring back the old beat calculator. Especially the ‘based on average’ bpm tapping function I’m missing like crazy.

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Bring it back, bring it back, Beat calculator…

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I thought it was a joke, bring the beat calculator back please,
how is it possible to remove a function like this?

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Oooowww! Wow! Maybe I’m overstating my influence on the proceedings in northern Germany but as one of those creating a tap tempo feature request directly available in the project I feel kind of guilty. To my defense though I have to add that never in my wildest dreams I could imagine the direct tap tempo feature would REPLACE the beat calculator.
It’s like you eat at a restaurant and feeling thirsty so you order another beer and soon enough the waitress comes with another beer, takes your first beer AND the plate with the food and leaves. You don’t think you need to explain that to the waitress, right, it wasn’t what you meant. :open_mouth:

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the new tap tempo and tempo detection functions are just toys for me, but not so funy and absolutely unusable, who use a random tempo session? Who use tap tempo in mix session with high buffers size? Less is more, bring back this simple efficient tool please!!!

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But there always was a tap tempo function?

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