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Hi John
I want to contribute to your thread. However, I have to wade through a wide patch of shallow water before I can reach the dry-land you built in your thread-title.
It is too wide for me to jump over, for by ignoring it, I would by default be deserting the general principle of ‘on-topic’ and specifically undermining by ‘silence means assent’, the topic, which you as host have attempted to maintain.
When I put in my 2 cents, even to support yout host’s decision, I am simply adding more lines of text to the off-topic diversion … I add to the entrapment-by-consensus that this is More Really, by dint of participants’ insistence, a Discussion Thread.
To an ignorant observer, you could appear to be a weak member who cannot host his own thread, and may not, perhaps, therefore, be relied on to generate or maintain high standards of headway in personal or professional projects. Or for people who perform heirarchical assessment on corporate systems, you come ‘low down the ladder’ in the alpha-dog world. YOUR TREE is ok for others to piss on. Even though they may, if challenged, deny it the stream and the stench is obvious, because the issue here is not about the sincerity of the ‘discussers’ intent. It’s about whether your thread is getting systematically trashed.
On the old forum, where I was a an ostritch-pussy, John, or before I had got to know you a bit better, I’d have politely PM’d you to say I withdraw my offer of poetic voiceover. I’d have given you an excuse. My real reason is that I’d have felt intimidated and scared that my musical and personal intent would get trampled on by ‘the big boys’ - because when they are on top form, Doug and Paul ARE imo the ‘Warrior Debaters’ on this forum.
I’d have wimped out. I’d have feld a sense of humiliation and shame.
If I’d remained in your project, then at best, I would have felt a weak sense of atonement … a yucky sense that I had been ‘forgiven for being a bit ignorant of larger issues.’ And as we posted the song, the echoes of that assertion of the immaturity of our approach would damp my sense of achievement. I’d have felt that I was part of a group of losers. A group of children who made a nice sandcastle while the adults put their beach-towels in the centre of our workspace and talked grown-up talk.
Alternatively, If, in this thread, I’d made the above point, said “leave me out of this project, there’s just too much stife - not your fault, mate but, well, on this forum, what can you do.” Then I’d have been throwing my toys out of the pram … well because I’d come to feel that the pram was of diminished worth, my toys would have dripped from my grip.
What I WANTED to say when I opened this thread was:
Hi John
I’m glad the song is coming on well. I propose that when it is complete except for my poetic voiceover at the end, I will do a ‘best quality’, but would make clear that it is to be ‘vetted for meaning’ by you and whoever writed the main lyrics. I want you and the lyricist to asses that it is aligned with the truth of your hearts. At which point I will deem my work to be complete, or will re-write as needed.
Best wishes
Glyn