WOW, I had no idea how difficult it would be to obtain a Surround Panner Joystick for my current Artist Series Controller setup (1 MC Control, 2 Mix & 1 Transport)!!
There is some kind of bug (that Avid swears is SBās fault) that shows 2 sources on the MCās surround window. Trying to swipe the touch screen to pan the source (once you know WHICH one actually IS the source) is jittery as hell and while the pan knobs are calibrated better than the channel controls, that isnāt saying much when the DAW shows that Iām on channel 104, but the MC window shows that Iām on channel 117!! Besides that, with only 8 rotary encoders, youāre doing a LOT of paging. The mapping is also very odd, as the 2nd page is blank. So, youāve got controls on p. 1 and then the rest are on 3 - 5.
I was hoping to get some kind of USB Joystick that would allow me to bypass the MC Controlās surround window altogether or, at least severely reduce my reliance upon it. I wanted to incorporate it into this current setup, hence my interest in the JL Cooper unit that I saw installed in the Nuage controllers. I figured that when I move over to the Nuage controllers, I could just use the same unit. But I have been sufficiently warned off by Fredo and a host of other unhappy Cubase/Nuendo users. A search on the Avid site showed more than a few unhappy PT users as well with the JL Cooper devices.
Next stop, X-Keys. Their Macro Keys units work great with my setup and give me so many āSmart Switchesā as to rival the MC Pro controller. So, I thought it was at least worth a look. http://xkeys.com/xkeys/xk68Joystick.php At $250.00, it seems viable IF I can program all of the Surround controls to the 60 Macro buttons provided. Bigger concerns are whether the joystick will stay where you leave it or whether it snaps back to the center when you let it go, making that an instant deal breaker.
Everything else Iām finding is basically for Gamers, not people working in production. So, can you guys recommend ANYTHING suitable for working with Nuendo 7/8?
Hi, Keyplayer. I was looking for suitable surround panner controller as well. Avid Artist Controlās pan seems the same to me not very handy. Iād found a great application for android āTouchDawā it has XY pad, even two on one screen, so now I can manage not only surround pan for 5.1 mixes, but even dolby atmos pan.
So my problemās fully solved)
Also thereās interesring decision with xbox360 gamepad as midi controller. Ocean Swift Xbox360 Midi Controller - Setup and Demonstration - YouTube
Though the joystick on it asways goes to center by default which is not in accordance to frontānācenter default pan position in nuendo.
Both methods are pretty cheap.
P.s.
TouchOSC is even better, so I bought it also.
If you are still interested, I am currently working on my own development for our Nuage. The device can also be built into its own housing.
Here are some pictures of the first version. The final device will be black.
If you are still interested, I am currently working on my own development for our Nuage. The device can also be built into its own housing.
Here are some pictures of the first version. The final device will be black.
The panner will run on both PCĀ“s and Mac. It will be connected via USB and communicate via MIDI. The joystick sends a pitch control for each axis, so that there is a higher resolution than 128 steps.
The device is integrated via a Generic Device. There it is possible that the encoders work in ārelative modeā, so that there is no jump if values should be changed by mouse.
the problem you describe is a little in the nature of things.
the reason for this is that both the axos and my joystick are not touch-sensitive. so for nuendo/cubase it is impossible to find out if the user still wants to write automation or not.
with my joystick, i work around this problem with a button, with which i can switch the write function of the automation on and off. unfortunately, thereās no other way.
the reason for this misery is that Harrison holds a patent on touch-sensitive and motorized joysticks. thatās why there are no products on the market.
I appreciate the effort you put in making a new panner.
Which makes me think ā¦
Isnāt there a way you can āhackā into the midi communication of the JL Cooper panner en simply disable the divergence rotary knobs on the joystick!?
That would solve the biggets problem with the JL Cooper panner.
I understand. But if you add a button that can easily switch write on/off, that would be a good solution. Maybe I can add it as a key command in combination with the AXOS, but it would be much better to have that function on the panner itself. Iād still be very interested to know if there is a release date and an idea of pricing?
unfortunately I cannot change the software of the JL Cooper.
Also one of the main reasons to build my own panner is to have a smaller and more discreet joystick.
This looks very cool. I love the fact you have added the Quick controls at the top. Is there a plan for Atmos hight? I always thought having the panner joy stick that could pull up and down would be a great idea for adjusting the hight of the object.
