Transpose up octave, notes stay visibly the same

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How do you transpose a whole flow up by one octave up without making all the notes jump up an octave? In other words, I want the pitch to be an octave higher without a visible change.

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Youā€™re using Dorico (not Cubase) so I donā€™t know what instrument youā€™re using. So see if any of this can be related to Dorico.
With the instrument that you selected for playing your score, open the instrument and you should see a place where you can adjust the octave.
If Iā€™m using Halion, I open the editor and the first tab says ā€˜editā€™. There are knobs to adjust Octave, semi-tones or cents. If you adjust there, it will not affect the score layout.
Hope this helps.

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Thank you for responding. I am using Dorico. I donā€™t know anything about Cubase, and at best I have always had a lot of trouble with this part of Dorico. Itā€™s pretty much random and once in a while I accidentally get something to work.

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Basically, what Iā€™m getting at is to change the octave inside the instrument that you are sending your score through. This will not affect your score layout. There should be an edit feature for the instrument that you select.

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Just confirming that what Albert said works in Dorico too - by changing the transposition within a vst.

Dorico also lets you do it within an expression map, or you can add a new instrument and change it in the instrumentā€™s definition.

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I donā€™t know how one changes the transposition within a vst. I see the VST abbreviation, but thatā€™s all I know about it. I have Dorico Help. Do you know where this is explained in Dorico Help? Is this accessible?

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Gotcha - can we back up a minute? If you arenā€™t familiar with VST yet, then it is possible that what you are asking is maybe not the right question. What instrument are we talking about? If you can give us more information, then maybe we can avoid sending you in the wrong direction.

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At this point, I have to stop. Without going into detail, Iā€™ll just thank you for your time and attention and find a workaround. This concludes a futile effort that has dragged on for years. The workaround works. I have no aptitude whatever for what is needed for the other methods. Unsatisfying as this is, itā€™s time to fish and cut bait. Thanks again, and I do appreciate all your efforts.

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Perhaps if you were to post the file we could show you. If you cannot tell us even what instrument(s) you are using, you are not giving us enough information to be more specific.

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Iā€™ve taken the liberty to correct the misspelled ā€œsameā€ in the title.
You wonā€™t find useful information in the Doricoā€™s user guide to change octaves in the VST you use. You should find that in the VST user guide (whichever you are using). Or open it (the round e next to the VST name in Play mode should open your virtual instrument editing window. The transpose field should be there somewhere)

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@spencered, VST is the acronym for Virtual Studio Technology. It refers to the (virtual) instruments (either single or collections like virtual orchestras) one loads into notation software like Dorico (or a DAW ā€” Digital Audio Workstation) ā€” like Cubase). HALion (in some version) is a VST that comes with Dorico, but many users like myself also use other, third-party VSTs (or their near relatives like NotePerformer, which are slightly different, but essentially the same from a basic userā€™s perspective).

What my fellow forum members are getting at is that octave appearance and playback have a few layers in Dorico. In addition to the obvious one ā€” where one spells notes on the staves, there are:

  • transpositions built into Dorico (see Transposing Instruments)
  • octave adjustments that can be made in the Expression Map (under Library) for individual VSTs
  • octave adjustments that can be made in VST windows that can be opened up in Play Mode

So as you can probably see, in such a multi-faceted case weā€™ll need more specific information even to be able to help. Uploading your file will probably be a good move at this point.

And in case youā€™re interested in reading a bit more about VSTs (created by Steinberg!), I posted the Wikipedia link below.

Good luck to you in your creative work!

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