Hi,
Every time I render audio from a VST instrument, I get an unbalanced waveform . To fix this, I have to manually adjust it with the panner and save a second audio file with a more uniform waveform.
Any clues why this is happening? Thanks
Which Cubase version? There was a bug in C11/12 (I think it was resolved in 13) where under certain conditions such a thing could happen:
Hey, thanks for the link, I’ll try the Output - None workaround. I’m on 13 pro (Mac).
I’d like to update this thread, as I still have the same issue and can’t find a way to solve it. I have tried what is suggested in the discussion linked above (but no joy). Thanks
Hi, @archetipo
Are you sure of the panning settings of all the things that could be acting in the audio path, including effects, sends, Stereo Out bus ?
Beside this, could you make a screnshot of the arrange page, showing both a MIDI part (recorded or already existing) and the render result ? This, with your Render in place settings and the channel strip of the VSTi involved - IOW, something like this :
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Does it happen with any VST Instrument?
Could you try using Retrologue and its default preset, (no inserts or sends)?
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Hi, Actually with Retrologue default preset it renders ok. Not the same with the with EW orchestral sounds and pianos I use (though render settings are the same as those used with Retrologue
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Hi and thanks for your answer, just replied below, attaching the screenshots. Cheers
P.S. Switching the “Stereo double” off doesn’t change the way the file gets rendered.
They are stereo samples, some natural panning depending on their position in the orchestra compared to the micing is to be expected.
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I think Grim could on the right course. Celli are usually to the right of the conductor and the audience. Thus it could be that your library (and the player) has them naturally panned to the right.
In the screenshot with the Hollywood Solo Cello you can the the microphone pan setting being to the right.
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So, basically orchestral samples already come with panning baked in. This confuses me a little, if the panning is already in the recorded samples, should I just leave the Cubase pan centered? I usually render the audio and then pan according to orchestral seating.
That’s right, you can leave the pan centered to respect the stereo image established by the VSTi library.
Or you can adjust the pan (with small movements) to “better” calibrate your composition, while maintaining the stereo image established by the VSTi library.
Or you can convert the instruments individually to Audio by choosing the Mono option in the Mixdown window; this way, the pan is completely free and independent of the stereo setting established by the VSTi library.
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Just for me to learn:
- Are all orchestral libraries recorded with panning baked into the samples, or is that something specific to EastWest ones?
2.. Why would I record individual instruments in mono? Even though it’s just one instrument, my goal is to recreate the feel of a full orchestral performance.
Cheers
1 - I’m not sure, but I don’t think so.
2a - Exporting in mono gives you full control, but it’s more work.
2b - You can keep the default panning without worry (if the result is what you want).
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You may want to experiment with using the close mic pan within the software but leave the mid and main mics as is for a more natural result but still with some flexibility.
If you pan the rendered audio or the mid/main mic pairs then you are actually panning the room as well as the instrument to some extent.
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Thank you all