See I cannot say that I will “skip” 7 because HOW will you get to 8, 9, 10 in the future?
We cannot say that we will stay with 6.5 forever, because things around the DAW will force us to move on and upwards.
Soooo, at some point we (I) am looking for something to nudge me into the direction of 7. The existing mixer aint helping. There is nothing in the 6.5 update that helps (not that it should).
My only relevant point is that this update supports people staying with 6xx version of Cubase, but how are you ever going to move from 6xx, if that new mixer is the reason you’re hanging around?
Just shop talk really, but I know that there are folks who are looking at this update and wondering if this helps moving towards 7 or does it hinder?
Simple. You buy the update from 6.5 to 8 instead of 7 to 8. It will cost more, but ofcourse it should. I skipped Cubase 4 in the past too, and the new stuff in C7 simply doesn’t cut it for me. I hardly use the mixer anyway, the chord track seems nice but not needed and Variaudio in 6.5 is good enough for how I use it.
What Arjan said, +1 in regards to the update process. With regards to VariAudio, I think at this juncture it is beyond the reach of Steinberg - and although I can live without it, too, I do think it extremely odd that a DAW company the size of Steinberg cannot deliver it in its full glory. Especially when I consider that Helge said it would be part of the 6.5.5 update. Eh, maybe someday.
And I for one will remain very hopeful that Steinberg will ‘reinvent’ the C7 mixer down the road.
Well I do use a mixer ofcourse, just not the Cubase one. I mix OTB on my Tascam DM3200. I have this digital mixer connected with a 32-channel in and out firewire interface, and the only time I use the Cubase mixer is when I need to group tracks for running over 32. In my type of work, that doesn’t happen very often. The Tascam is also a remote controller for Cubase tracks, so even if I use the Cubase mixer, I control it from the hardware one…
Niles - I find that the vocal tracks are not mapped well when I scan them while using the Variaudio features. There are sections of the audio wave that are not mapped. And then, moving on, as I try to alter the range of a sound block it seems (sounds) pretty obvious that something has been moved. Not all parts/sections/words stink, mind you, many are passable, but the occassional one is so bad that sends me back to try the whole track over again. It’s frustrating for me as one of the youtube demos I have seen make the process look very easy and flawless.
Eh, and it has always been this way here. But maybe I misunderstood what Helge was saying when he said he would correct Variaudio in C6.5.5. Since he didn’t mention it in the update, I assume nothing has changed - and - it seems to behave the same here much as it always has since C5.
Are you doing vocal correction there? I am happy to learn from you how to make this perform as it should. The one demo I have watched lately is of C7 and - geez - that looks pretty good. My hope was that Variaudio in C6.5.5 would be equally good. Are you under the impression that they are identical?
mr.roos I hardly use VariAudio so I can’t answer your questions. For me In practice it works much faster and better to punch in a take to correct parts that are off key or out of timing. The only time I use VariAudio is to create a deliberate artificial sounding correction, where the malfunction is the power of the effect.
But I agree, VariAudio in 6.5.5 feels like acting the same as previous versions (I guess it is).
The trouble I have are the artifacts introduced when transposing an entire audio event, regardless the algorithm.
When you transpose an event with Elastique Pro-Time you’ll get a pitch jump at the start of the file. (This is mainly solved by using Elastique Pro-Pitch). But when using Elastique Pro-Pitch (or any other algorithm) the start and end points of the events are modified with a fade in and out (video). So when you playback an event with a transposed continuous sound you’ll always hear the transition due to the fades at the start and end.
So we are talking about different things here regarding to pitching
From its appearance, I’d think it would easily be able to be “worked around” with a snip and cross fade, and then dragging the right segment left so that the waveforms match up (at an even more zoomed in level than you have shown, almost at the sample level). Have you by any chance tried that, and if so, did that little “glitch” sound go away?
I have tried that indeed, also tried working with overlaps on several tracks for one file (less fiddling with crossfades). Another way is embedding the pitched event in a part and adjust the boundaries of the part inward compared to the event, so the troublesome fades are virtually cut off. But all those workarounds cost a lot of effort and aren’t always possible on the fly due to the limitation of the source material and the overall result is very mixed.
The fastest way for a perfect result is dropping the file in a sampleplayer, DJ hard-/software, audio editor or another DAW to transpose the pitch and maintain the length.
But to be fair, all those solutions feel like an unnecessary extra step when working with a DAW like Cubase 6.5 (or 7).
After some days of working Cubase 6.5.5 looks good but some new bugs appeard, like mixer mistakes on channels and same variaudio drops problems in some samples… I can work with of course but I was expecting a definitive update… These problems are in 64bit mode under osx 10.7.5, anyone have these kind of problems? some solutions? thanks
Anyone have any problems with mouse scrolling when mouse is hovered over inspector?
I have been accidentally changing some values that are all “live” automation value dropdowns I guess (don’t use em).
Just scrolling up to move the arrangement page, if the mouse is hovered in the wrong place, you could be changing meaningful settings and never know it.
I have the following bugs with Cubase 6.5.5 on an early 2011 Macbook Pro 2.2Ghz with a Thunderbolt display. Interface is a Yamaha N12. I’m also using V-Control on an iPad 2.
When I open a project, Cubase doesn’t recall where I put the mixer and puts it on the main laptop display regardless of where it was when I saved the project. All other open plugins are located where they were when saved. This is a minor annoyance.
I’ve been recording some acc guitar with 2 mics and a DI. Once in a while the recording stops and an error message comes up which says something to the effect of “too many tracks being recorded”. This has happened about 4 or 5 times. When i stop and restart recording it doesn’t happen again. I believe it only happens when I’ve come back to recording after having left the computer idle for a while.
I’m not expecting Steinberg to do anything about these bugs as they’ve already announced 6.5.5 is the last update but I’m just reporting what I’ve run into.
