Wet/Dry for all plugins

Wet/Dry for all insert plugins =)

No.

And this was already posted.

please have a look around if you are going to post 5 or so frs at once.

-doubt this will ever happen, as it wouldn’t be backwards compatible.

-Secondly, most plugins have their own internal mix, and if they don’t you can use a VST wrapper that has the feature.

-the only plugins that don’t have dry/wet are EQs and some compressors, of which most compressors also have dry/wet. How many times do you need dry/wet for EQ?

  • If I get a project where someone has set your insert dry/wet mix to %70 and the plugins internal dry/wet mix to %30 I’m going to lose my 5h!t What is the point of insert dry/wet, when pretty much every plugin you would use dry/wet has it.

  • imo and many others, it’s not professional organizational workflow. Dry / Wet balances should be done on faders not mini-knobs.
    It’s just not what Cubase is or does, Cubase is about organization.

  • having, a bunch of dry / wet mix knobs scattered across 16 inserts across 200-1000 tracks is not musical. If you wouldn’t do it on a project that size, why would you do it on a project any size if it’s beneficial?

  • It’s counter intuitive to doing proper gain-staging and gain management, it makes diagnosing problems more difficult, it puts gain variables in both visually and physically unobtainable place, it lacks organizational labeling and a track picture,

  • It also doesn’t resemble anything in the analog world in terms of console workflows. I haven’t seen too many dry /wet mix inserts.

  • Think of it like this, Cubase is your studio point to point wiring and console. You put modular synths, effects, instruments, and specialty routers - all things that have dry/wet mix knobs - and you put them in your studio and network into the console.

  • There’s no reason for it, and it encourages bad, lazy, unorganized workflow which is how I feel working in FL/Abelton/etc. Somethings shouldn’t change - like always wrapping your cables and proper signal flow/topology.


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if there’s a feature request that makes sense, it’s to be able to save ‘favourite quick controls’ so that they always load to the first available quick control as soon as you load the plug. that way you could save all the dry/wet controls in each plugin as favourite quick controls so they always available. that’s the best compromise I can make.

just ignore all the negative talk above…

Great idea=)

+1

=)

right, because having a Dry/Wet stage feeding another dry/wet stage on one insert x 16, IS A GOOD IDEA.

Yeah, some of us are pretty creative aren’t we?
blows kiss :wink:

lovegames,

Hi. I understand your personal point of view. It does not suit your workflow. It suits mine, and probably can be useful for many people as well.

Regarding the justifications you evoke, I do not agree with you:

Backwards compatibility : many functions are not backward compatible.

Secondly, most plugins have their own internal mix, and if they don’t you can use a VST wrapper that has the feature.

Most plugins already have a dry/wet : many but not all. A VST wrapper is a third party plugin, and I doubt about the stability over time (just a hypothesis, never used any).

-the only plugins that don’t have dry/wet are EQs and some compressors, of which most compressors also have dry/wet. How many times do you need dry/wet for EQ?

Personnally that feature would be helpful for distortion or guitar amp plugins. Also most of plugins do have a preset management, but Cubase implement its own additional preset management…

  • imo and many others, it’s not professional organizational workflow. Dry / Wet balances should be done on faders not mini-knobs.
    It’s just not what Cubase is or does, Cubase is about organization.

I did not talk about mini-knobs. But do not really care the type of entry system, for my workflow, once again.

  • having, a bunch of dry / wet mix knobs scattered across 16 inserts across 200-1000 tracks is not musical. If you wouldn’t do it on a project that size, why would you do it on a project any size if it’s beneficial?

This is a personal point of view =)

  • It’s counter intuitive to doing proper gain-staging and gain management, it makes diagnosing problems more difficult, it puts gain variables in both visually and physically unobtainable place, it lacks organizational labeling and a track picture,

Perhaps. But many plugins already use dry/wet mix, so what ?

  • It also doesn’t resemble anything in the analog world in terms of console workflows. I haven’t seen too many dry /wet mix inserts.

True. Who say they should ? I guess there was not DOP, dynamic EQ nor any spectral editing back in the days.

  • Think of it like this, Cubase is your studio point to point wiring and console. You put modular synths, effects, instruments, and specialty routers - all things that have dry/wet mix knobs - and you put them in your studio and network into the console.

Answered above =)

  • There’s no reason for it, and it encourages bad, lazy, unorganized workflow which is how I feel working in FL/Abelton/etc. Somethings shouldn’t change - like always wrapping your cables and proper signal flow/topology.

Personal point of view. And if a user wants to be unorganized, lazy, have a bad workflow, or even use FL/Ableton/etc, who can judge ?

if there’s a feature request that makes sense, it’s to be able to save ‘favourite quick controls’ so that they always load to the first available quick control as soon as you load the plug. that way you could save all the dry/wet controls in each plugin as favourite quick controls so they always available. that’s the best compromise I can make.

Yes, favorite quick controls can be cool. But there is no competition between this feature and my proposal. It’s not one or another =)

I’ve never seen an amp sim plugin without dry/wet mix.

If a user wants bad unorganized nonsensical workflow than any new feature or a feature like this one should be irrelevant to them and we shouldn’t lose Steinberg FR development resources to them when we could be getting more important organizational features that make a difference to those who actually care.

It doesn’t make sense to have dry/wet inserts, when most plugins have dry/wet mix knobs.

I’m good at finding compromise, and that is the/my idea of quick control favourites, and I would say is more likely.

Stop spamming other users requests with your requests/trolling please…

Op- just ignore, one can tell that the disruptor is just being noisy…:wink:

Edit: https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=202253

“Everyone who is more logical than me is a troll” = trolling

Helix Native, Guitar Rig, MixBox do not have master wet/dry setting.

Mate, I would love this workflow. If it sounds unorganized and nonsensical to you, it does not matter. You are not in my studio =) I consider my request as legitimate enoguh to submit it to the Steinberg team.

MixBox has dry/wet control per module you insert. Guitar rig you can use the split utility. I’m sure Helix can do this as well.


I’m %90 sure this will never happen. It simply does not make sense to have ‘dry/wet stage1’ feeding 'dry/wet ‘stage 2’ per insert, it doesn’t matter how much of a creative genius you are.

SigMod
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Why are you insisting to prove that you vision is better? Mate this is just a request, about my own workflow. All is subjective here. Period. I don’t argue on the usefulness of your own requests.