Why did this signpost appear?

Hi all,
Long time Musescore user here. I’m a week into my 60 day trial of Dorico Pro and I’m impressed! While I prefer Musescore’s note entry (probably because I’ve developed the necessary muscle memory to be pretty fast), I have to say that Dorico’s engraving options are definitely superior.

Here’s my question. Regarding the following screenshot, I found a forum thread (What are these anyone?) that informs me that the signpost in red is a time signature signpost, telling me that the prevailing time signature is 2/2, with a beat grouping of half notes in the pattern 1+1, I have no idea why it appeared there! There’s nothing special about that measure and I can’t delete the signpost. What’s going on?

Thanks,
Tom

Try selecting and then deleting the barline, rather than the signpost.

Barlines and time signatures are closely related (in some bizarre ways)

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And welcome to the forum, @TomCraig !

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Thank you Janus,

That did the trick. I deleted the bar line at the start of the measure and the bar line remained, but the signpost disappeared. I still have no idea why it appeared in the first place, but c’est la vie. Signposts seem to be a tad mysterious. For example, sometimes a key change signpost shows up at the beginning of a flow when the key signature has not been changed, sometimes it doesn’t - but those I just deleted, no problem. Not worth a developer’s time to dig into.

Impressive software in any case…

Regards,
Tom

PS Thanks for the welcome asherber. The Dorico forum seems very civilized. Most refreshing!

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This might have happened if you changed that bar line to something other than single and then changed it back to single. That new single bar line is actually an overlay on the default bar line; as @Janus indicated, bar lines and time signatures are related, so the signpost appears to show that something is going on there.

If you change bar lines and then want to change back to the default, the best thing to do is delete the changed bar line, not reapply the default.

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Dorico differentiates between C major, A minor, open/atonal and the complete absence of a key signature. These will all appear as signposts apart from the last - the signpost is telling you that there’s something at that location that would otherwise be invisible.

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Aha! That’s exactly what happened. I inserted a double bar line in the wrong place, then went back and inserted a single bar line, and the signpost appeared. As an experiment, I inserted a double bar line, then instead of inserting a single bar line over it, I delete it and got no signpost. Perfectly logical. Thanks!

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That did the trick for me, too. Thanks for your post, Janus. (“bizarre ways” is right!)