Hello,
don’t find where to adjust this:
resolution of the progress of the cursor (vertical green) when we play the music.
I do a video for beginner student but the progress of the cursor is not not good in dorico 4 (ok with dorico 3.5 )
best regards
dup
I complained about this shortly after Dorico 4 was introduced. Unfortunately, there is no way to adjust the speed at which the playhead advances.
@johnkprice
Thanks for your answer…I search from two hours to do video with capture software for beginner (educational purpose) and to have the visual aid of the green playback…but now (w10) and dorico 4, it’s completely unusable: damage! …and not the courage to do this with after effects (remove the playhead with colorkey and redraw a vertical line and etc…)
best regards
There is a workaround to cause the playhead to advance as often as it did in Dorico 3.5, but it is tedious:
In this example, the first measure has a time signature of 3/4,6 and the second measure has a hidden time signature of 3/2. The piece begins with a tempo of q=56, but changes to a hidden tempo of h=56 as soon thereafter as possible. Each measure has a hidden tuplet with 3 quarter notes in the time of 6.
Finally I shifted the sound in a video editing program, to make a compromise between the visual and the audio.
But this thread and in particular John taught me that playhead advancement is actually sensitive to the number of items there are. As I needed to make tutorial videos for beginners, I had a lot of whole note and half note and with that the position of the playhead disturbed the audion and the vertical comprehension.
@johnkprice nice subtle solution and cleverness!
so my wish for Dorico 5 less news but remove pages from the workaround manual;-)
@johnkprice
Hello John,
If you have time, can you tell me if your method can be apply in this kind of situation. Can the visuall be ok in write mode : tempo 55 bpm and only quarter note (four measure per line) and then “p” to play?
my cursor (playhead) move in two step per quarter but the second step is at 30% of the distance (not at half).?!!
As I already said it’s for educational purpose and for very beginner who want to have visual assistance of a playhead
I have 40 flows per project.
Or Is it better to export to xlm and open it in other software like Sibelius for example?
thanks in advance
best regards
The playhead position isn’t “30%” between the two quarter note positions, but exactly where the rhythmic position one eighth later than the quarter note falls, taking into account that of course there’s no eighth note actually at that position. Bear in mind also that the playhead is always left-aligned with the left-hand side of the front note in the first voice at that position.
The method I described in my previous post can be used in any situation; it gives the illusion that the playhead is advancing four times per quarter note even though it is actually advancing only twice per quarter note. To reiterate: the tempo needs to be twice as fast as it appears to be, the measures need to have twice as many quarter notes as they appear to have, and each measure needs a hidden tuplet with n quarter notes in the time of 2n.
@dspreadbury
ok I understand ! I will do otherwise because a little strange for my purpose to initiate beginners to explain regularity like a watch:(and when there is the sound and tap with foot, it’s a little strange …(for me)
Thanks again for the explanation
@johnkprice
If you have time
I can’t reproducce your example as soon as I put a 3:2 in the second measure bar , the barline are strange and after how did you get the green 3:6 as min your example??
A real nightmare!
Best regards
They are signposts of hidden tuplets, not meter changes
I’m sorry you’re having trouble reproducing my example. Let’s go through recreating the Violin II part step by step:
- Even though the time signature for this piece is 3/4, we need 6 quarter notes in every measure, so the first measure has a time signature of 3/4,6 and the second measure has a time signature of 3/2 (without the ,6).
- After entering a tempo of q=56 at the start of the piece, select the bar rest in the first measure, start note input, select a 32nd note in the left panel, press space to advance the caret one 32nd, press Shift-T, type h=56, press Enter and then press Esc.
- Select the bar rest in the first measure, start note input, press semicolon, type 3:6q, press Enter and then press Esc. Select the tuplet and copy it to every measure.
- Enter the notes.
- Hide the second tempo, the second time signature and all of the tuplets.
@johnkprice
Thanks very much for your time!
thank you for all the steps to follow, but point 3 is still a problem for me: after finding that on my keyboard (swissds french) the semicolon does not give any effect, I found that I have to do Alt + 33 . but Here is the result:
puis Enter:
Not exactly as you: why?
Best regards
I’m not aware of all of the differences among languages and keyboards, but let me rewrite step 3:
- Select the bar rest in the first measure, start note input, press Alt+33, select a quarter note in the left panel, type 3:6, press Enter and then press Esc. Select the tuplet and copy it to every measure.
Edit: It appears that your first measure only has three quarter notes in it. Are you sure that you are entering a time signature of 3/4,6 in the first measure using the popover? The ,6 after 3/4 is what creates a measure with six quarter notes in it.
@johnkprice
I’m ashamed to take your time :Don’t waste time with the “bells”, tomorrow is Sunday and the churches will take care of it!
I made a mistake: Where I previously wrote “activate insert mode” I should have said “start note input”. I have edited my previous posts.
Here is a project demonstrating how to make Dorico 4 advance the playhead 4 times per crotchet. It contains the first 13 bars of the orchestral arrangement of Le jardin féerique by Maurice Ravel:
Making the playhead advance 4 times per crotchet.dorico (693.9 KB)
If you don’t have NotePerformer, substitute another playback template if you want to hear the music.
@johnkprice
Great great thanks for all your information and explanations.
(if you are on buymeacoffee.com I will gladly offer you a coffee).
I was able to recreate the example with still a little problem because I use “Mouse without Border” to share keyboard and mouse between several computers and the alt+33 key sent the info twice…but now it’s ok and I adapted your workaround on my 4/4 and it works.
I also tested your file.
This improves really the original, and advances a step… but the competition (I will not name the names in this forum that I love) for this kind of video educational use is still further.
For small value, it’s ok but for slow tempo and long value it’s not so accurate sync~…I will test with some people that meets their demand to take the final decision.
best regards
This topic has given me a greater appreciation of the difficulties faced by forum users whose native language is not English or who use Dorico in a language other than English. When @Dup had to press Alt+33 on a Swiss French keyboard instead of semicolon to open the tuplet popover, I tried to find information about that popover in the French Dorico manual. I wasted a great deal of time before I discovered that this manual had translated tuplet to N-olet. Suffice it to say that Google Translate didn’t help in this case!
For a quick way to switch between languages, locate the relevant page in the English manual (or whichever one you habitually use), then swap the language code in the URL.
English = /en/
French = /fr/
German = /de/
Italian = /it/
Japanese = /ja/
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