Cubase 12.0.70 maintenance update

The cubase exit door didn’t even work properly, so I’m still waiting on a bug fix for that. :joy:

Enjoy your $200 bug fix release called Cubase 13.

Meanwhile, I made my Reaper look just like Logic (on my PC) and customized it just like I wanted it.

Seriously, though, the main reason I quit using Cubase is because of the way it hijacks your machine, disabling security features, like auto-lock, without even notifying the user. I’ve never seen anything like that in my 25 years as a SW engineer, and it’s really bad form. But apparently, based on the hateful feedback on this forum received when I suggested making it an OPTION, most Cubase users LOVE being exposed.

@M15 I really like what little I know about S1 and it looks like their innovation afterburners are on full. When I first considered it, it did not support video, which was a no-go for me. Now they’ve added it, but suspect it is still in a new phase. Lots to love there. The interface is stunning, although I can’t speak to UX. May do a cross-grade at some point to give it a go.

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Looking forward to trying out the next version of Cubase, why don’t we skip the “13” number like in the elevator?

What are you doing during a studio session that you need your internet up and running at ‘full blast’?? Are you checking Facebook in the middle of tracking?

As most professional studios wont be checking email while doing a mixdown on the studio computer, having to go around Windows security measures to make something run seems like a perfectly fine workaround. If you need to jump online, shut down Cubase, turn your security back on, and quit going to websites where you have to worry about someone ‘hacking in’ to your PC or downloading stuff you aren’t sure of.

Windows has always been a tweak fest to get running properly, it was this way back when I bought Cubase VST in 1998/1999, and had to be done whether you were running Cubase, Logic Platinum, SAW, Cakewalk Pro Audio, etc.

Funny enough, a Mac with all its ‘draconian security’ somehow works right out of the box without any modding, aside from installing your audio interface.

Yeah, I’m not even sure what you’re talking about here, but it has nothing to do with the issue I was addressing. If you’d truly like to understand, I recommend you start here and here.

I guess I just care more about the security of the assets on my workstation than most people; that’s what this is about. I simply would like Steinberg to make hijacking workstation security an option for those of us who do care about security. I completely understand WHY they did it, I just don’t understand why it was forced on everyone. No other DAW does this, and they all handle tracking just fine.

I had to do nothing to run Cubase 12 on my system when I first installed it. Are you running on a PC?

Hi, not savvy re: Windows, etc here, but want to learn: What security features, when you say auto lock what specific behavior are you saying is disabled?

Thanks much -

Hi Alexis. In Windows, it is standard practice to enable screensavers so that after a period of inactivity (keyboard presses, mouse moves, etc.) Windows locks the machine and puts your monitors to sleep, requiring you to enter your password (or other credential) to unlock the machine to continue working. You can, of course, lock your machine manually very easily every time you walk away from your machine, and turn off all your monitors (I have 3) to conserve energy (and their life). Nobody chooses that over the automatic feature.

In a home studio, auto-lock makes more sense, since you have a certain level of “home security” already built in, so you can feel comfortable getting up from your workstation for dinner, knowing that the machine will lock in a few minutes automatically. But what Cubase does every time you launch it is TURN OFF the automatic locking functionality the user has established (and expects), WITHOUT informing the user. I learned this soon after purchasing and installing Cubase by returning to my PC and finding it unlocked and all three monitors on full blast. It had been that way all night. My workstation’s cooling system was also running much harder than necessary since Cubase was keeping it in an alert state, all of which is a huge, unnecessary waste of energy.

Perhaps in a busy studio setting that operates 24/7, or in one where security of the client’s assets aren’t a concern, or where the cost of electricity is small compared to vast profits, this isn’t a big deal. Notwithstanding the security hole, if you have a console and a ton of outboard gear using MWhs of energy a month, you might not blink. But for the typical home studio, it doesn’t make sense for Cubase to hijack a user’s system security and power management in this way. As I said, no other DAW does this. The excuse being used by some, that it prevents the system from interrupting tracking sessions, is complete bunk. It might have been necessary in Windows 98, but it is completely unnecessary today.

So, basically, whenever you have Cubase running on your PC, the following is happening: Your preference to use auto-lock is disabled without warning, your monitors will stay on full blast all the time, and your machine will run at highest capacity, taxing your cooling system, all because Steinberg chose to continue an outdated programming practice no longer required and, worse, not making it optional. Hope that helps. Cheers.

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You know that 14th floor? It’s really the 13th! Someone tried jumping out of the 14th … they died sooner!

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Still have my 1040ST, Roland JX-3P and a Doctor Rhythm drum machine. :slight_smile: I made mixes on a Tascam Portastudio which is also collecting dust. The masters went on a Realistic Hi-Fi stereo VHS recorder. lol oh, the days! If only then we could see us now!

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Nice , lol , i started as the per video ,Cubase , little PSS 480 , Boss Bx16, DR550 and a Tascam 4 track . The innocent days as i like to call them :smile:

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Kindly consider that the notion of the number 13 meaning ‘bad luck’ is a cultural one. It is not shared by the vast majority of the population on planet Earth. There are many people that treat 13 as a normal number and it works just fine for them.

Everybody in my previous company did. Thanks for explaining to me that we were just a bunch of weirdos.

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And I started with 2 track ping pong recording on a stereo tape machine. The outcoming mix was always mono with the last overdub at one ear. :grinning:

Later in the 80s I used a 4 track tape recorder (YAMAHA MT44D) and synchronized it with a Roland MC500-Sequenzer.

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My experience working with/for several Fortune 100 companies, and with managing large IT Outsourcing contracts myself, has been that no company who cares about their own intellectual property or their customer’s data/assets, whatever the case may be, leaves endpoint security to hoping the user will lock their machines every time they walk away. It is usually mandated via Group Policies, and in one such extreme case, timeouts were as short as 120 seconds! In no case would Cubase, or any other program behaving similarly, had been allowed anywhere near our networks. Weirdo. :wink:

BTW, it would be very easy for Steinberg to make this a user preference.

He’s rolling out the big guns. Well, can’t argue with the Fortune 100. Especially since I only worked for the Unfortunate 100 companies.
I am certain that Goldman Sachs would run Cubase as their main software if it just wouldn’t pose a security risk.

Actually, I really don’t care about this feature. I’m a single user. I just don’t like that you think you speak for all of humankind. Also I think we had this discussion already on another thread, so why this one, too? Have a nice day.

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:joy:

Since you offered up…
Any progress on this issue?

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Despite your snarky response here, there’s a reason why they’re Fortune 100. Experience matters.

Apparently you really do, or you wouldn’t continue to be so severely triggered by a request that would have absolutely ZERO impact on you.

huh?

As far as I can tell, using the “Steinberg Audio Power Scheme” is optional, via a checkbox in the Studio Setup.

And when that’s unchecked, you should be able to run your own preferred power management configuration?

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:grinning: well anyway, bring it on that new version.

You would think so, but that’s not the case. This setting has no effect on the issue I’ve raised, not in Windows 10 Pro anyway. I’ve tried a lot of things (this included), as have others, but nothing prevents Cubase from disabling the user’s security preferences that I have found, hence the request for the option to turn it off.

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