Cubase 13 - Any word on new update cycle?

Or you can just use logic, bunch of daw options out there for everyone’s preferences. :+1:

if not there’s always this

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Logic has the worst horizontal zoom of all DAWs for me, as it is not focused around mouse location, but playhead location or selection. On top of a way more limited midi editor than cubase.
Yet i still prefer to use Logic over Cubase because of the GUI, can’t win :sweat_smile:

Said user here that made said tool to help out with continuous pinch-to-zoom in Cubase/Nuendo on Macs.

My current beta version is all about integrating Magic Mice into Cubase (see “New features”). Although I’ve been using it personally for weeks now, it’s not ready for release yet due to the lack of some important customization features required by many end-users in the wild. But if you’re interested in testing, I’ll create a pre-release on Github and share a link here on this forum. I could really use some end-users’ feedback…

Productive features (PinchBar 0.2):

  • pinch on (Magic) Trackpad for horizontal, CMD+pinch for vertical, ALT+pinch for waveform zoom
  • other presets for other apps than Cubase (e.g. pinch-to-zoom inside Mail, Xcode and other text editors …)

New features (current beta):

  • (vertical) two finger scroll on Magic Mice for continuous trackpad-like zoom in all macOS apps, e.g. Cubase, Nuendo and other DAWs, Safari and other browsers, graphics/video editors, etc. This supports CMD/ALT modifiers for vertical/waveform zoom in Cubase, too
  • one-hand alternative for ALT modfier: double tap and pinch/scroll without letting go from (Magic) Trackpad/Mouse to perform secondary zoom (i.e. vertical/waveform zoom)
  • two/three finger click/tap on Magic Mouse/Trackpad to perform middle mouse click. In Cubase this allows clicking-and-dragging the view around with Magic Mice
  • another preset for browsers: pinch-to-zoom (and vertical two-finger-scroll on Magic Mice) without modifiers just zooms normally, but changes font size when holding ALT (or doing the double tap+pinch/scroll thing). This fits better to most website layouts than zooming into and scrolling all over their pages…

All these new functions are not yet documented and cannot yet be switched on and off individually, since PinchBar lacks a sufficiently flexible configuration mechanism for such a diverse feature set…

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I had the same problem with him! He is so smart!

Ignore messages is the way forward my friend

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Well looks like it will be called Cubase 13 and come with SpectraLayers One v10, as let slip on SpectraLayers section here:

I expect that post will be edited very soon though lol :slight_smile:

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Well, that’s very handy then considering it follows on from 12 and related to this topic :neutral_face: :neutral_face:

I’d prefer Cubase NG (Next Generation)
I hope for rock solid stability, robust error trapping and to be future proof.
For this I am willing to give in backward compatibility including compatibility with old OS ( like Win 10) and even VST 2.

I think they should fully embrace the 13 now we know they’re not avoiding it, and release it on Friday 13th (of October). :scream:

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There’s a Wed 13th in September. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Ignore him, he’s being a jerk. Because he has no problem with such a change, or has money and doesn’t care, he thinks everybody else’s concerns are automatically invalid, as if it’s all about him.

You make some very valid points. Forced-subscription, if it happens, will be a bad model for many people, and means you never get to own the Cubase you pay for from that version onwards. It also means that you’re given something whether you want it or not, which is like a spit in the face when it comes to ignoring your loyalty all those years and the thousands you’ve spend on Cubase and updates.

Now, there will always be people who just bend over and accept whatever. But as companies like Avid and Quark have found, if you don’t respect your loyal customers, there are also many who will jump ship when they have the chance, and have a severe impact to your profit. Let’s see if Steinberg has learned from their mistakes…

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I know one thing for sure: After Cubase 13 will be released there will be people writing posts about their disappointment in this forum. :grin:
Let’'s see how many and how loud people will cry.

Yes (LOL)
But it doesn’t hurt I guess …

Wednesday tomorrow and Thursday after that … Just saying

IIRC, Cubase 11 was released at 11:00 CET on the 11th of November, so there’s a potential pattern there!

@Bockbier (the OP in case you forgot …)
Cheers to you as you succeeded in starting the longest post ‘ever’ on this forum ( and you seem to have lost focus yourself :wink:

Hahaha its funny, i think we all have over 1m samples in our sample librarys that we never use, coz cubase have all samples and more to make everything. And alot off ppl say that cubase only have bread and butter stuff, and thats not true it take litle more time to get there. I bought all izotope everything bundle, not because I need it, but it’s much faster to get where you want. and Fabfilter even faster for some plugins. and it all depends on having a clear visual image of what is happening. if all cubase plugins had the same visual clarity of what’s happening like fan filters but different colors and realtime updating in a nice and clear way. if cubase had this then you would only use cubase plugins. just look at cubase compressor and isotope compressor and fabfilter. then fabfilter wins easily because of the design and the visual image you get right away when working with it.

so please Steinberg make all your plugins visual with a screen that shows oversampled hi-res screen in plugins that clearly show the visuals. and yes, you should listen with your ears, but you do that when you have made a rough adjustment and dialed in the last thing.

I’m not complaining, I just want to give positive feedback on simplifications for faster workflow.

And some feedback, something that bothers me horribly is that I need to start clunky Halion 6 to open a synth that draws as much as an 80’s compac could handle. you guys need to free all synths from halion and add among retrolouge backbone ect, completely standalone.

and if I want a multi install I can open Halion. Halion 7 has gotten a little better… and I also don’t understand why the Halion mixer isn’t there as a tab in the bottom window.

WITH why aren’t the synths scalable in halion ??? I do not get it. you can scale up everything you don’t need except the synth which is so small you have to use a magnifying glass.

also I don’t understand why not the whole channel track with strip yes everything is in a tab in the lower window too? it is clear that one got used to using the left window and quick command. but it would have been quite nice to have the entire channel with the strip etc. when I press an audio or instrument track ect. then you have everything gathered together visually, and you don’t have to click on the mouse all the time.

I’m that type, max 1-2 clicks away, and you’ve succeeded a lot with that. but not updated plugin.

the same input gain, why isn’t it on the actual track channel you create, so you can easily gain. the same applies to the autotain button, where you select all the channels you want to gain and press autogain which is preset to type -23 -18 lufs/db RMS or true peak. then you can clearly work from that. you already have a control room and supervision that can carry out this part.

then I have one thing, why do you have to bother with creating channels for testgenerator? it is almost the absolute best synth in all of cubase. make it a vsti synth, so you don’t have to keep creating channels without outputs to record in on another track. it just has to be a must in Cubase 13, and I think everyone agrees.

the same applies to side chain with ghost trigger to other channels. there should be a trigger function with ADSR on each channel in the left window, where you can choose whether the bass or something else should be on or off when the trigger starts. and the trigger must be the same as the quantize model that already exists.

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Ye coz ppl havent read all the manuals and understand how mutch they get for the money. I have read everything, but some stuff i dont understand.

Hate this stuff, it take my time in cubase. but it show how komplete cubase is. Its just the form and stuff that need to be easier to do or its integrated on another form. But its just me.

I agree. If all the C plugs were more comprehensible, there really is very else most people would need. But this is true of other DAWs also. StudioOne’s plug-ins are comprehensive, but really cluttered and hard to use.

I think there are two factors that have created this situation:

  1. Early plug-in designers thought it was a good idea to make the software plug-ins look like the hardware boxes they were emulating. Maybe that made sense in 1990, but most people using these things today have never seen any of those hardware boxes. It is, IMHO , a spectacularly bad idea to make the plugs look like hardware. It just clutters the interface and makes everything hard to read and understand.

  2. Most of the plugs were developed in an era where we had one monitor of limited size, so they tried to squeeze everything into as tight a space as possible. Maybe made sense in 2000, but it is the worst possible idea today.

There have been some efforts to streamline the visuals. For a while, the Cakewalk people developed a channel strip GUI and got some other companies to put out versions of their plugs that would adhere to Cakewalk’s GUI concepts. But they eventually folded, so maybe the market doesn’t reward DAW vendors for that. OTOH, Izotope and Fabfilter (among others) have done very well using modern user interfaces that don’t try to look like hardware.

Steinberg should look to Dorico. They have managed to take thousands of parameters and present them in a framework that is very accessible and inviting. It can be done.

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