Cubase 13 - Any word on new update cycle?

The Dorico team should be running Cubase, honestly. The work they’re putting in over there is fantastic.

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you are absolutely right in what you say, I remember myself in the 1990s. but then had a lot of hardware, and the computer screen was second hand. today the computer screen is the first choice unless you are recording from the hardware. in the past you had mixing consoles to a greater extent, today it is in the screen that we look at for hours.

many get headaches and get bad and stressed eyes and can’t work for 3 hours even when you strain your eyes on a bad screen to even see the sliders for all the little buttons, like everything.

it’s a pure work environment issue for anyone who doesn’t have large spaces with mixer tables and 2-3 50-60 inch screens.

the only thing I personally require is that everything should be 2023-24 GUI with vector scaling on everything in cubase, can’t they use E-cores for that?. so I can use 2 4k screens and still have the size of everything my eyes require to not get headaches and eye strain. I don’t like using some synths in Cubase because they are too small for buttons. and that no synths in Halion are scalable, but the interface is fully scalable?.. how were they thinking there. young people do not understand that after 25 years in front of screens of different quality, they have developed bad eyes.

we live in 64bit 2023. where 6-700$ sound cards are like 2000$ sound cards 10-20 years ago.

and cubase has many new and old guis and interfaces in it.

they need to do a complete renovation of the GUI, because many people sit in front of bad screens, in my case 2 pc 1440p 27" now I only have one in front, as I have other connected.

it is too small, at least 2 pcs 32 inches where cubase is fully vector scalable with the whole GUI, but only as the right window you can only drag out a certain length but you don’t see the full name of the file???. will i have to buy 50-60 inch tvs to work with cubase, well you get it.

if anyone can fix this and all the vst and vsti and the whole interface GUI it’s steinberg. they have all the knowledge. but have they spent a lot of time programming software synths and other software related stuff, then maybe I find it odd that they don’t do it at the same time,

I personally won’t update to absolute 6 until Halion 7 is fully scalable ect.

cubase must be updated as there will certainly be a lot of optimizations against Intel’s new technology with E core and P core as well as ddr5 and everything else related to Windows 11. that much is in Windows and the new Intel platform. and not everyone has it. so it’s probably hard times for daw programmers now to deal with all the problems microsoft and the intel platform has put them in, and then we customers come and complain about it hehe

therefore I can wait 1 more year for cubase 13. it will take time, I think everyone agrees on that. many don’t even have 64bit plugins, and many still have 32 it.

even IZotopes.

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The truth is I have only used a small percentage of Cubase’s capability. I have a list of things I probably should learn.

I have had some medical issues this year that caused me to stop playing music altogether for 5 months, and follow a much more restricted schedule. I am recovering and will be back to at least a partial performing routine by the end of summer. The extra time has allowed me to clean up some things and learn some Cubase concepts I had never practiced before.

This past week I did my first project using the chord track extensively. It is very powerful but also has a lot of room to add capability and finesse. If Cubase 13 is a year away, I have plenty I can learn in the meantime.

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Cubase 13 Wishlist
-Groove Agent+Download Assistant get updated icons on the Mac to make them look in line with everything else, man that irritates me
-Native ARM Download Assistant + Library Manager (even the eLicenser app is Universal!)
-Oh yeah, make a way to update patch lists inside MIDI devices. :smiley:

Don’t change anything else. And leave the app icon blue! I like the blue!

that’s exactly how it is, I’m learning new things all the time, you see things but you don’t spend time learning them. only the right window has a hell of a lot you haven’t used, until you read or watched club cubase, which makes you raise your eyebrows and say, where is that function too hehe.

the problem is that I can at least see how things work visually. and work through the manual on over 1200 pages, I do not. but you look when you need, however, some things are difficult to understand in the manual, where they only show the function and not the areas of use for it. just take the control room for those of us who have a hybrid setup with send return and cue mix. guys I’m in the process of understanding and hardware routing, and getting a smooth way of working.

It is challenging to do the documentation “just right” for products as complex as Cubase and Dorico. I do find the help pages frustrating at times. I often find myself landing on what looks like the right help topic, but that page may simply define the term and not have any useful information about when one might use it or how to use it. Sometimes, it doesn’t even say how to get there.

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Based on the incredible success of UAD Spark, and UAD going semi-native, I disagree about “most people.” And I’m not referring exclusively to emulations. I like most all SoundToys GUIs. While I don’t use hardware emulated channel strips much, including Omni Channel, they seem to effectively work for most users.

I like the sonic results of most of the TDR plugs. But their GUIs make me wish they were laid out more “traditionally” yet retaining their sonic and visual advantages. It’s a continual issue for me to consider even using a TDR even though it may work better for a given objective.

EQ is an exception, because IMO it makes total sense to work from the graph like MDWEQ or ProQ3 as opposed to a Pultec or Manley. While I love the Pultec and Manely, sometimes I find myself placing a Bertom or Plug in Doctor just to visualize how I got that “perfect” spot.

There can be a debate about the most comprehensible way to lay out the controls. Personally, I have zero use for layouts that try to look like hardware because the hardware layouts were driven more by the placement of PC boards than some intelligent plan for how to interact with the hardware.

Be that as it may – I realize there are differing opinions about that – I would hope we can all agree there is nothing good resulting from backgrounds that try to look metallic and have graphics so small that a user has to get out a magnifying glass if he/she hasn’t memorized where every control is. Visually these things are a nightmare for people with less-than-perfect eyesight, and that gratuitous “eye candy” (it isn’t candy to imperfect eyes) is really torture.

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Totally agree! They’ve been doing amazing work with Dorico for years now.

Finaly one more that are om my side on this. if stock plugin hade more visuals like Izotope and fabfilter, i hage usel the stock allt the time Cox Theo are real good bit the GUITAR and no vector i vant use them. I tryed padshop yesterday cos i realy like tjat synth, bit after 10 min my eyes was so straind Cox of all the small knobs and buttons, same Witherspoon halion and all Otter stuff. But not sunervision :slight_smile:

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One advantage software has over hardware devices is the ability to present information and controls n a hierarchy or other well-organized format. Many of the most notorious plug-ins (most of Steinberg’s) have a misguided philosophy of shoving all the available controls and information into the smallest possible space. This is exactly the opposite of what good, modern UI design would dictate.

Modern systems should make a clear distinction between the most common functions and the functions used rarely by advanced practitioners. There is very definitely a 90/10 or even 98/2 rule for most functions covered by plug-ins today. Most of the effect can be achieved with 10% of the controls. The lesser-used controls can be kept in the background, accessible by pop-ups, tabbed interfaces, or whatever.

And there really should not be a need to have gigantic monitors in order to keep dozens of plug-ins open all the time. StudioOne has done a little to streamline the navigation where you can see the plug-ins related to the track(s) you are currently working on, with all the other detail disappearing into the background. There is clearly an opportunity for DAWs to do a much better job in this area.

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I can’t say no to that. if cubase had a scalable gui i wouldn’t have bought 3rd party vst and plugins. well maybe some plugin from izotope.

steinberg to soon give free glasses to all of us who have had poor vision due to kass gui. or free screens
when I’ve worn my terminal glasses for a few hours, I can’t see a damn thing with my normal ones. and the terminal grass eyes are optimized for 30-40 cm and the screen 70 cm away. so you get vulture’s neck on that too. like buying a 4k 24" screen

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I propose a new name for Steinberg to the following, as there are many superstitious people with the name 13, in fact in the US there are no 13th floors in buildings, they go from 12 to 14, but if they use 14 they (Steinberg) would also show a certain dose of superstition, then I propose to Steinberg that they call the next Pro 12 “CUBASE PRO X1” …
greetings

Or Cubase Pro XIII

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Or 12+1 …

They could go L.A. gangster style and call it Cubase Trece!!

Or 12+extra’s

An they will do the same with Cubase 13. Release it with bugs that will never be fixed. As a result there isn’t a single version of Cubase that is bug free :person_facepalming:

How about Cubase BG (Bug Free)

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For legal implications i very much doubt it :rofl:

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