Cubase 14 available now

Cubase 13 arrived LATE due to circumstances beyond Steinberg’s control.

Nuendo 13 was released pretty much on time, but without the customary benefit of studies from the initial Cubase release. Nuendo is usually released a bit later than Cubase, with a newer/cleaner x.0.20 or higher engine under the hood.

The tardy release was because the old Living-C store got into some kind of trouble (Legal/Financial?). Steinberg had to do prep and changes to help Fastspring get a brand-new online store setup, tested, and online. The store change pulled considerable attention away from staff who would normally be using that time trouble-shooting, rolling out updates, and charting the path of the next major ‘paid’ release.

Despite the problems with distribution…Steinberg still had to try to keep dev teams on schedule, and stay on the map financially. They still NEED revenue streams to pay all their people and keep the lights on. Whatever rainy day coffers they emptied taking care of getting Fastspring up and running, and making up for lost weeks of revenue need to be replenished.

Things should be back on track now.

This is the reason 13 and 14 have a little more grace period overlap than usual. Normally, the release times between paid upgrades would be bigger.

If I didn’t have the cash on hand to get 14 the day it’s released, I could wait (and piddle with the time-limited demo) until I’m ready. Do ‘upgrade’ keys get a grace period at all? I thought that only applied to starting fresh with a completely new seat/license.

It’s always been the norm to pay around $99 for each ‘upgrade’ cycle. Some people buying a fresh new seat have always endured the misfortune of missing the grace period by mere days, or even hours. It happens. If the money isn’t in the bank right now to upgrade, there are benefits to waiting a few months anyway (bug fixes, and more help-tutorials out there).

Not just with software, if I’d waited 2 weeks the last time I got a PC, I could have gotten 30% better performance for a similar price, or gotten equal performance for a lower price. It’s not unusual for things we buy one day to go on sale the next. It happens sometimes.

The Anniversary sale was promotional gravy for newer users just getting into the Steinberg ecosystem. It didn’t mean as much to those of us who already have everything Steinberg that we want, but for those who have been planning to pick up more Steinberg offerings it was a really good deal. Some of us who didn’t really ‘need’ anything else may have picked up some extra stuff because at 70% off it’s hard to resist!

Now I have so many things Steinberg that some years I might not have any choice but to skip some paid upgrades, or in the least scatter it out over several months. I need to be more careful about my priorities. Still, I like it better than the subscription models that competitors are using, and don’t find a huge difference in the costs of getting into competitors’ ecosystems and maintaining the latest versions.

Something similar happened to me when I made my first NI purchase. I got into Kontakt 7 (decided on impulse to explore their stuff using a gift card) for the first time and barely a month later Konakt 8 came out, and I get no ‘grace period’ to move up to 8, and my ‘discount price’ to convert my Kontakt 7 package to 8 is 99$ (same as the typical Steinberg upgrade). I have no idea if NI did anything unusual for them. Probably not. I’m new to their eco-system. I’m still kicking myself for not waiting another month. It happens. Then again, for my needs Kontakt 6, or even 5 is probably better anyway. We live and learn.

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Such a mature, rational take.

If the upgrade price during the sale is 50% cheaper than what people paid to upgrade when C13 first came out, and then Steinberg releases C14 a month or two later, you’re still better off. I don’t get how people don’t understand this.

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In fact, Cubase became a subscription plan a long time ago. I don’t like subscriptions to anything. I like to pay and have the software!

The new features that came with c14 make me want to update, in fact it’s always like that. If 13 had what 14 has now, I wouldn’t pay for anything else.

Another thing, I’m not just sponsored to say good things, I say what I see, my plugins and software, I bought with my own money, in this case I have the right and can express myself however I want, I’m not a company fanboy!

Oh, because I don’t agree that you deserve a free upgrade because you got the last version for a great price I must be company fan boy.
Do you believe personal insults to anyone that disagrees is the way to go.
You’re wrong and now you’re being childish.
What is next, screaming and stamping your feet.

how come cubase 14 pro does not have stem separation built in? They still wanna some extra for spectralayers pro. They charge $99 for each update but wouldn’t hesitate charging separately for the feature everyone requested.
Studio ONE pro (around $200) has that for less than half of the Cubase pro price ($579.99)
Another thing to talk about is a drum machine which would not save your samples inside of drum kit but just keep the reference to it. If I haven’t had cubase software already needed for my Tyros arranger I would not pick one for sure.

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Steinberg does not offer subscriptions. Kindly please do not claim things that are not true. You have the right to be disappointed, but that does not give you the right to spread false claims.
Thank you.

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Steinberg doesn’t have a subscription plan that I’m aware of. You buy a seat and it lasts for life. You can choose to apply paid upgrades, but it’s not a requirement to keep using the version you’ve registered, and all previous and little brother versions. To roll back to versions earlier than 12, you need a properly setup dongle (Ideally one that had an upgrade from 11 to 12 applied to it…otherwise whatever the latest key on your dongle and before is what it will unlock). Moving forward, if you don’t have a dongle you’ll always be able to roll back as far as Cubase 12.

You can now activate Cubase on up to 3 computers. In the past the only way to use it on multiple machines was to physically move the dongle.

For Windows, Cubase/Nuendo compatibility through OS upgrades is usually a very long time…it’s possible to run all 64bit versions of Cubase on the latest Windows 11 (That goes back to Cubase 6 or 7 I think), and if you hold your mouth just right you can even get all the 32bit versions…even the old XP era stuff to run (replace some of older driver dependent stuff with newer versions).

For what it’s worth, Windows is starting to dig into support for ARM processors. Cubase is on the way for those as well (preview release is out?), though I have no idea what version(s) of Cubase/Nuendo are going to unlock native support for ARM when it officially hits the streets (Will it come with version 13, 14, or will we need 15?). It’s possible that if you want to run Cubase on Windows with an ARM processor without some sort of software Intel/AMD emulation layers (Similar to Rosetta in Apple world), an ‘upgrade fee’ from whatever you have to which ever version of Cubase natively supports ARM processors might be in order.

Apple tends to drop support for older hardware much quicker as the OS evolves, but if you maintain a machine with a compatible OS, your Cubase investment will continue to work.

Staying on the cutting edge with the latest Apple OS releases can put you in a position to ‘need’ paid upgrades a little more often than Windows, so if you are in Mac world, research things carefully before accepting upgrades for the OS, or for your installed Apps. If you know a big transition is going on (Like the one from Intel CPUs to Apple’s own ARM based Silicon) then check out demos and do your research before making big version changes.

Subscriptions are more like what AVID does…
You give them your Credit or Debit card number. It takes a fee monthly (seems like they offer a small discount if you go ahead and pay off the whole year in one chunk). If you took the subscription plan, and stop paying, your software stops working. AVID does sell ‘permanent’ seats as well, but they cost a pretty penny up front…and you still are required to ‘subscribe’ after some time if you want the periodic updates that occur ‘between major releases’. You still have to lay out a big chunk of change if you want to ‘upgrade’ a standing seat to the next major version.

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As you’ve only just recently purchased C13.
Does that not demonstrate that you’ve had full choice on when to upgrade, and to what pricing you preferred?

Also, you’re complaining that you’ve paid a reduced price but not subsequently received a free paid update designed for people who paid full price. I’m not sure that’s so unfair.

But of course, it’s your right to come on here and complain about it if you feel it’s unjust in anyway. Just be mindful of others trying to help you, Not everyone is your enemy, nor is everyone who disagrees a fanboy.

Also, remember this is a moderated space so you can’t simply express yourself however you like without some form of intervention if it goes beyond the accepted rules.

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I am a Dorico owner, so I bought Cubase 13 PRO at a 70% loyalty discount (what a deal!). I only had it a little more than a month and then bought the upgrade to 14 for $99. This path saved me about $300 on CB14 and I couldn’t be happier. $99 for a major release upgrade of a Pro software should be a no brainer.

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Can somebody help me with the upcoming licensing changes? I was considering buying Cubase 14, but I don’t want to purchase it and immediately have my license invalidated and unable to move to a new operating system. (such as forced Windows 11 in the future)

It’s already happened, a few years back now.

Cubase 12 was the first release on the new licensing, you have nothing to worry about with version 12,13 or 14 onwards.

The warnings are for people on Cubase 11 and earlier who are using the USB dongle method.

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I 've been around a while and realize the update paths but what you forget is how they used to have releases every 2 years and have FREE updates in between. Then went to the paid .5 version updates but still w/FREE updates in between.

This update (14) is what should have been in 13 but this was nothing but a money grab IMO because 13 was a half a**ed release riddled w/issues.
Now if you wanna play fanboi go ahead but I’m speaking factually,
There has NEVER BEEN A FULL VERSION RELEASE AFTER 1 YEAR or LESS Until this one.

  • |Cubase 5.0|January 27, 2009||
  1. Cubase 5.0.1|April 8, 2009
  2. Cubase 5.1|August 24, 2009
  3. Cubase 5.1.1|December 12, 2009
  4. Cubase 5.5.1|June 21, 2010
  5. Cubase 5.5.2|November 9, 2010
  6. Cubase 5.5.3|March 29, 2011
  • |Cubase 6.0|January 17, 2011|
  1. Cubase 6.5|February 29, 2012
  • |Cubase 7.0|December 5, 2012
  1. Cubase 7.5|December 4, 2013
  • |Cubase 8.0|December 3, 2014
  1. Cubase 8.5|December 2, 2015
  • |Cubase 9.0|December 7, 2016
  1. Cubase 9.5|November 15, 2017
  • |Cubase 10.0|November 15, 2018

  • |Cubase 11.0|November 11, 2020

  • |Cubase 12.0|March 2, 2022|

  • |Cubase 13.0|November 2, 2023|

  • |Cubase 14.0|November 6, 2024|

That said, I agree w/ MrHehon,
It’s $50 in savings but ONLY if you updated during the sale and when many of us did it was with an understanding that there wasn’t going to be ANOTHER full version release after 1 year and then happen within 2 months of the sale?
As I stated, That had never happened before, then have the cutoff date screw anyone who jumped on the sale too early?
C’mon now…

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How can I change the black title bar color? It’s horrid and disappears into my desktop background. I see no settings for it.

Also, can we change the font they use? Whoever makes this GUI needs to be fired.

I don’t care if I have to change it in an .xml. Someone please help with this.

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I like it very much!

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Work out how much we pay for an update now vs then and apply inflation, less professional studios to sell into, more competing companies pushing demand for new features. It’s a completely different marketplace i’m afraid.

It’s one where to survive you have to be demonstrating forward momentum to potential buyers to stay relevant. I’d prefer longer update cycles myself and more emphasis on bug fixes in the second year - but hey, we have to be accepting of the landscape really.

But let’s not populate this thread with more of this though, it’s been done to death many times over. End of the day, if any of us are paying for something that we don’t feel is worth the money then more the fool us as it’s just validating the system.

I understand that the grace period for Cubase 14 is from october 8, and I´m not feel “cheated” because of that.
But in my case, I felt “cheated” about buying Cubase 13, because, I did activate C13 on September 26, nonetheless, I really wasn’t able to actually use it till October 8 because of an issue I was having, as seen at this post

, and as well, I sent the dump files to steinberg, so they could confirm.

So my point is, I activated C13 on September 26, but it really got functional after october 8, at least for me.

I just upgraded to C14 from C12, and I am horrified to see that again it is a completely dark interface, and I see no way to switch it! I don’t have Windows dark mode enabled, then why is the application in dark mode?
It should be known now to UI designers that a dark mode is neither better for the eyes (except under some circumstances, like low light) nor every user prefers it, this is why every modern application has an option to a) let the user choose or b) adhere to Operating System settings.

I don’t work in the dark, I am not young anymore and I have bad eyesight, and Cubase is getting worse and worse with each iteration regarding legibility (those super small thin fonts! Absolute disgrace…). That doesn’t weigh up all the other nice features when I have problems reading stuff (and it’s not like I am on 4K or so).
It if completely baffling to me that while redoing the whole mixer design, icons, UI elements and whatnot, they didn’t think of a light interface.

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I agree, we desperately need more theme presets for Cubase.

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I really like the completely dark design and my eyes like it too. A dark DAW is also more professional, as it is much darker in many studios today than it used to be. Today’s producers often only go into the studio in the evening and work through the night, so they don’t want to be bothered by a bright DAW.
If the DAW is too bright and you work at night, there is also a greater risk of the police suddenly ringing the doorbell and disturbing the production. Working in the dark is smarter in every respect and it’s also good for climate change.

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In that case, the dark design would be even better if all the texts and labels were actually also in a dark grey charcoal color!