Judging from this forum here there are a lot of people against AI i think steinberg will have a great problem integrating AI in Cubase.
Of course I am, I am a music composer, not a one finger stabber. I studied for years and worked hard to gain my education, I went through dozens of books , God knows how many scores, and did my 10,000 hours, and still working hard.
I personally would never touch anything to do with AI created music, pre-recorded music, pre-produced and pre-arranged music. Itâs as matter of pride.
As for companies offering contracts with a clause stating that you cannot use pre-recorded and pre-produced music, I am 100% fine with that. Thatâs how it should be, and as per my post, it is how the film production world works.
i agree with you .
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Thatâs not really true though, at least we donât know that.
First of all, just because that one sentence says âAI-Created Artâ it doesnât define what âartâ is nor âcreatedâ. The problem with âcreatedâ is that it doesnât necessarily talk about percentages or tasks. So if I use an AI to create a composition and arrangement with instrumentation, but I then choose to program Cubase and do all the mixing mastering, is that âAI-Createdâ? What if I let AI also do mixing/mastering, itâs still not 100% AI⌠right? Copyright-able?
Secondly, the problem with AI is partially âhow do you know it was AIâ. So, if I do everything using AI, how would anyone know? Iâm considered innocent until proven guilty, so if lying about it was a crime someone would have to prove that I didnât create what I said I did. And if itâs a civil matter someone other than the government would have to have enough money and reason to sue.
It gets even more complicated when it comes to âHollywoodâ. AI created what? Story outline? Script? Screenplay? Dialog? Actors? Stuntmen? Extras? Wardrobe? Makeup? Sourcemusic? Underscore? VFX? Color grading?.. All of that? Some of that - and if so how much and which?
Itâs far from clear itâs âgame overâ for Hollywood. Pause maybe, but certainly someone will move forward with this.
I just realized that maybe you donât understand the point of that meme. Itâs that the person, the DJ, feels satisfaction after having pressed play on the computer. They didnât create the music people are dancing to, they âjustâ pressed the play button to start playback of what other people did. Itâs obviously more than a bit facetious and arguments can be had about the degree to which DJs are musicians, but I think the gist of what I was trying to say with that image and my caption is clear now.
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No it is you that donât understand what Iâm saying i said use AI to your advantage not let AI create the Music although i doubt it if there are still any Music composers out there not at least to my knowledge the past 20 years even the name composer has changed to content creator
in this respect i think AI is a godsend as it will clear out all those people who think that they compose Music and they torture the listeners ears you have to go back in time today to find quality Music that speaks to the heart.
I hear you,
Itâs not simple or easy to regulate. However, it has to be regulated. There are AI-spotting image detectors, for instance already in use.
AI will progress, sure, and so the countermeasures. One thing I know for certain is that companies do not want anyone to jeopardize their IPs.
People who cheat and are found out, perhaps will not get prosecuted but will have to find a new career, prontoâŚ
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I have heard AI already *is in Steinberg products, e.g. , SpectraLayers. Maybe thatâs not correct, though.
Maybe for independent composers. Maybe.
But most of the time composers have to deal with film producers who are at best idiots when it comes to music. They donât know a good piece of music if it bit themâŚThey just care about moneyâŚ
Again AI can help by manipulating MY music to the idiots requirements .
I donât know if I am missing something, is that supposed to be a good thing?
Will said idiots will be able to differentiate between any Dick and Harry who bought the latest miraculous AI compositional tool, and an actual composer?
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Lets credit them a bit they are not that idiot.
No, that is true. The folks in this thread are using the term âAIâ but are not really talking about AI in general. Rather they are discussing a specific type of AI called âGenerative AIâ but not calling it that. Generative AI produces something, it generates new stuff like graphics, text, music etc. This is the type of AI used for ChatGPT, DALL-E and the like.
Non-generative AI on the other hand doesnât produce or generate new stuff - it just uses AI to do something useful. This is the type of AI used in SpectraLayers. For example SL has been AI-trained by âlisteningâ to lots of audio examples to distinguish vocal from non-vocal sounds. When you use SL to extract a vocal from other audio, the AI isnât directly involved in that task - the AI was used earlier during the development of SL to teach it what is and isnât a vocal.
Out in the real world non-generative AI is likely to have way more impact on our lives than generative AI. But generative is the new kid on the block and more sexy to boot, so it is hogging the headlines.
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I deal with them all the time, trust me, when it comes to music, they areâŚ
There are quite some people who would beg to differ:
Daddyâs Car: a song composed with Artificial Intelligence - in the style of the Beatles - YouTube
I think you misunderstood me, I was referring to film producers.
Sorry mate, I appreciate the link, but I am not interested or impressed by AI, no matter how many people agree or are impressed by it.
I never understood the argument, millions like it , therefore it has to be right/great etcâŚ
this is done with the help of AI not by AI, a human actually wrote the lyrics and singing etc.
Yeah, but if I got it right, this discussion is about âgenerative AIâ in general, no matter if an entire song or parts of it have been written by AI.
In any case, and in my humble opinion, the song sucked, like, totally.