Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Oh I see what you mean, yes the mouse behaviour changed for vertical scrolling only in the mixconsole body where the channel strip, inserts and sends exists. On the faders you can the wheel does change the values.

Isnā€™t this a setting in the preferences now? In C13 that is

Nope. It looks like it will do it but it only works in certain areas of the UI, not in the faders. Itā€™s so inconsistent and makes zero sense.

Besides, today when testing I realised two extra dumb things - in the integrated mix console, the scroll wheel doesnā€™t scroll at all in the faders area. However, in the full mix console, if you ā€œaimā€ the mouse cursor at the area between the faders where the metering values are displayed, then the mouse wheel scrolls sideways. Itā€™s so inconsistentā€¦

And more - in the integrated console, in order to scroll with the mouse wheel, you then have to hover it over the scroll bar at the bottom, which is ridiculously thin and IMO, showing a lack of polish and usability care, it doesnā€™t work if you drag the mouse to the very bottom of the window (assuming itā€™s maximised) because the scroll bar is only active if you move the mouse just a little bit up. At least, they could have made it so that if you drag to the very bottom of the window and use the scroll wheel then it would drag, but noā€¦

It feels like playing a computer platform game, you have to be really precise or you lose a life.

I just donā€™t get these usability choicesā€¦

The setting only affects vertical scrolling in the Racks (now called Channel) Sections (and the new Channel Tab in the project window). So, if you have the Inserts, Channel Strip, EQ, Sends, Pictures expanded simultaneously, and they donā€™t fit the screen, the preference allows one to (vertically) scroll anywhere, without worrying about changing values. Just flick the scroll wheel anywhere and it scrolls.

But this does not do anything about the Faders Section, where horizontal scrolling is assigned to the mousewheel when there are many channels that canā€™t fit in the window, and only works within that Faders section.

The feature request from what I understand is exactly about this horizontal scrolling in the Faders Section and not so much about vertical scrolling on the other Sections above.

Yes, as far as Iā€™m concerned, the feature request only deals with (fast and efficient) horizontal scrolling on the mix console

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73 votes and many years have passed, and this still hasnā€™t been fixed? Steinberg, look at any other DAW to see how it should work.

Yeah I just downloaded c13. Itā€™s been years since I used Cubase cause these little annoying details that get over look. It seems you still can move the fader with your mouse smh! I love Cubase but loving Luna a little more these days.

My guess (from experience in my working life): Theres probably one or a couple of old responsibles sitting at their desks preventing requests like these, simply because they donā€™t agree personally with the community, even if these would technically be better solutions.
There are just too many (fortunately little) issues/bugs, that donā€™t make sense in Cubase and thats the only possible explanation imho.

Usually as soon as those individuals leave the company, many improvements follow.

(some people who read this probably have to smile while doing it)

I love being able to move the faders with the mouse wheelā€¦ Itā€™s engrained in my workflow.

If they gonna change this I want that to be an option (preference).

PS. When it comes to move/scroll the mixer horizontally, I drag my mouse off the screen to the bottomā€¦ and the use my mousewheel, without risking to move the faders or other parameters on the mixer.
For this to work, you mave have to maximize the mixer window (as I always do, opening my mixers on a second monitor).

The above is on Windows 10ā€¦ For mac I donā€™t know.

Point beingā€¦ Donā€™t change this without making excisting workflow possible :slight_smile:

It says right in the first sentence of the first post that this would be an option :grinning: .

There are some clumsy workarounds like you mentioned that work in the console window, but they donā€™t work in the lower zone console. There are obvious solutions that have been implemented in other DAWs, so itā€™s hard to understand why this has been ignored for so long.

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Can I get a Grammy for this thread? Iā€™m kidding Iā€™m kidding. All they need to do now is completely remove moving anything with the mouse and just let us scroll only please. Almost there lol

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Another update, another broken hopeā€¦ :slight_smile:

Cubase 14 seems to be a pretty nice update. If anyone has tried it would you be so kind to report here if thereā€™s any news on this mouse wheel thing in the new version? Thanks!

Mmm, I just went through the online manual and the preferences section regarding the mouse wheel action in the mix console seems unchanged from Cubase 13. Such a disappointmentā€¦

The behavior of the mouse wheel has indeed not changed, unfortunately. Even with option ā€œScrolling: Disable Mouse Wheel for Parameter Changeā€ activated, the mouse wheel changes fader and panner values, for example.

Thanks for the update. I really canā€™t understand this reluctance in adding an option for changing this. It seems so simple that it can easily be interpreted as stubbornness, though I know itā€™s not.

Weā€™ll keep on trying to convince Steinberg that the current solution serves nobody. Stay on it.

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Ignoring this important issue (itā€™s among the top vote-getting issues) year after year makes it seem like Steinberg is going out their way to intentionally inflict pain on their customers. Other DAWs handle this and the related issue of horizontal console scrolling with ease.

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Yeah, itā€™s not like they have to re-invent the wheel (pun intended)

@OFS
It seems we have the same problems using Cubase!
Iā€™ve just made a feature request for showing Folder Tracks in the MixConsole.
You, and everyone else who is irritated by such basic workflow omission can read and/or vote here

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