Ah: the later version is Mac-only (as it’s the ARM build). The version that comes with Finale 27.3 might be later; but there’s no standalone yet.
Is that the PT template file I made the other day?
(This is why I think it’s better to save your own Endpoints from the project files.)
So far I didn’t find the time to dig into the whole art of playback templates, endpoint configurations, Expressions Maps etc.
Therefore I just hoped to be able to get a quick impression of the sounds in Dorico compared to HSO and Noteperformer on my own files.
One day …
Here are revised Playback Templates and/or Expression Maps for GPO5 with Dorico 5.
As above, note that Windows users may not be able to load the VST state, because the Mac version is a higher number. Sadly, this negates a lot of the work I’ve done of selecting instruments for Dorico Players.
In order to make use of Dorico’s Stage and Space templates, I’ve turned off GPO’s Stereo Stage (CC103) in ARIA Player, set the Pan to 12 o’clock, and assigned the Small Studio Convolution (NB: turn off Ambience). You will need to do this if you load your own instruments.
GPO Docs.zip (1.8 MB)
GPO5.dorico_pt.zip (587.2 KB)
GPO Ex maps.zip (27.8 KB)
Let me know if anything is amiss. Unless there’s a huge outpouring of grief, I’m unlikely to produce many more of these.
Given what can be done with NP4 and other libraries, my interests in Garritan lie in a heavily customized ‘new direction’ – e.g. rewriting the instrument definition files to create improved instruments, using the samples from GPO and other libraries together.
If anyone is interested in ‘advanced Garritan use’, I’m putting together a manual about it.
The audio files do not play when I click on them. Am I doing something wrong? (I am on Windows 11.) Thanks.
Yes: they don’t work for me either. They are a few years old; possibly before the great Forum Shift.
Hi all,
I see these expression maps for J.A.B.B. and GPO5 (I also have GPO4, btw.), I downloaded them but I do not really know what to do with them. Unzip, clearly: but in which directory, or folder, please?
I’m quite a newby here, just bought D5Pro yesterday, doing first steps there, but my aim definitely is to create music the way I used to do when using Sibelius (Ultimate) for many years. (I love huge scores.)
Thankx for informing me.
I’d suggest you watch this Discover Dorico session, which explains all about Expression Maps, Endpoints and Playback Templates. (Even though it’s for a different sample library, the principles are the same.)
Dorico does not behave like Sibelius, so you should accept that the process will be different. Don’t try to use Dorico ‘like it’s’ Sibelius.
Thanks, and please let me know if in this regard anything has changed since then: I’m using Dorico 5 pro, recently purchased.
Yes, that’s understood, of course, Dorico isn’t “another Sibelius”. I was just saying with my question that I used to add Garritan instruments to the legacy Sibelius sound, and there are sound-/expression maps for this purpose. And I’m hoping that once I’ve dug a bit more into Dorico, I will be able to incorporate the Garritan family to the HALion sounds I am currently using exclusively when running Dorico. So after downloading the expression maps for J.A.B.B. and GPO5, I am wondering what to do with those downloads. There’s a lot of stuff being explained in that clip which seems to distract me from the topic I’m pursuing. What’s that thing about “Notation Central” and their Stream deck the clip is advertising? And the speaker is talking too fast in some passages, it’s realy hard to follow for someone who’s not a native speaker of english. Sorry.
You will find a comprehensive set of instructions in the @benwiggy’s GPO Docs zip file. You should also read the expression maps section of the manual together with Endpoints and Playback Templates.
Patience will be required. The learning curve for this topic is quite steep.
“Given what can be done with NP4 and other libraries,…”
talking of D5Pro, I learned that when applying NotePerformer’s playback engines, Dorico’s marvelous “Stage live” is overruled by NP. This is why I might be hesitant to use any of the playback engines that NP4 is offering. (Please correct me if I got that detail wrong.)
And yes, I am very interested in “advanced Garritan use”: I love the crisp horns in J.A.B.B., and GPO 5 has some nice sounding French horns, for example, and quite some percussion.
Thanks for giving me these further links to instructions.
And yes, I bet I have much to learn. After growing “too accustomed” to Sibelius it’s about time for me to “reboot” with Dorico, and I welcome whatever I will learn next.
Here’s some additional GPO5 content!
I’ve created some rudimentary Percussion Maps for the Basic Orchestral Percussion instrument and the “Toys”.
GPO Perc.zip (3.5 KB)
Also an Ex map for Timpani 1, which switches to rolls on a trill.
And here’s updated documentation, including my all new “Advanced ARIA Player” guide, which contains lots of secrets and hard to come by info about using ARIA Player to create your own instruments, and more…
Advanced ARIA.pdf.zip (3.3 MB)
GPO Docs.zip (1.8 MB)
Thank You!
Hi.
In that newest posting, Dec. 2023, when I download end extract GPO Docs.zip, I don’t seem to see a file named “GPO Full.doricolib”, which should be included here - if I’m not mistaken. I only find such a file dating from 2020. Is that one still actual, please?
Hi again.
Checking the links you kindly gave to me, I notice they are describing Dorico 4. I’m in Dorico 5 pro. Do the things said for Dorico 4 apply 1:1 to D5 pro, or are there differences, please?
The post of Dec 2023 is “additional content” to the one of June 2023, which should be the last expression maps.
Hello,
Has anyone experienced the following error?
Instrument
Notation/01 Woodwinds/01 Flutes/n-Flute Solo KS from bank:2013 was not found!
Sorry for the question.
That error means that the SFZ file is missing! Or that the file is not where ARIA thinks it ought to be.
On a Mac, check that you have this file:
/Library/Application Support/Garritan/Garritan Personal Orchestra 5/Instruments/1. Woodwinds/1. Flutes/Flute Solo KS.sfz
Thanks for quick and kind reply. Oh, I do not have GPO5, but GPO bundled with Finale 27.4.1. I probably not able to load them automatically.
Ah, OK. In which case, you’re trying to load a file which wants that GPO instrument, which you do not have.