@Falfango Thanks for mentioning to the CME Widi Master, I will give it a try!
Hi, I donāt think that VL is faulty. On Windows, I had no other choice than purchasing an app called MIDIberry-M to have my Yamaha MD-BT01 and M-VAVE Chocolate foot controller working.
Yeah, thats an old story, at least from last spring, all about Windows (therefore VL would need additional coding to add WinRT)ā¦
but good news:
- MIDIBerry is free
- Doing the job
Hello Felician,
The free version of MIDIberry didnāt fit my needs, I had to buy the extended version MIDIberryM :
Hi @Jihem Oh, what happened? sorry to hear that! For me the free is working more then great. Using with the M-VAVE
(Jeah, BT MIDI is working natively with OSX)
I needed multiple instances and bidirectional communication between Windows and a MD-BT01 connected to a Behringer FCB1010.
It worked fine except for the accidental lost of connection. I had to use an event listener to automatically restart MIDIberry by command line if the link had been broken.
In the meantime, I dropped the BT connection, as I purchased a Wino2 chip for the FCB1010. This great little board adds WiFi and a web server to the FCB and then I can use rtpMidi to send and receive data from the PC, without any cable nor BT adapter.
You probably know that the M-Vave Chocolate has a physical MIDI out. I connect it to the FCB MIDI In to benefit 4 more switches. The FCB merges its own messages with those coming from the Chocolate and send them together via WiFi.
Perfect configuration!
Wohoooo, youāre awesome!
Iām just simply using MIDIBerry via the MidiLoopback drv. Chocolate BT is set
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My only problem with BT CC is the tooo limited range/distanceā¦
Iād bet youāre using the onboard Bluetooth transmitter. Try CME WIDI devices. Theyāre still Bluetooth but are designed specifically for the job. They quote 20m unobstructed range.
I like the look of the Chocolate - itāll solve a problem for me. Thanks!
The Chocolate 1/4" socket can be used as an expression pedal input OR a Midi output. It could be feasible to connect a CME WiDi BT transmitter using a Din5 female to TRS adapter⦠Just to test if the working range is larger than the Chocolate integrated Bluetooth.
This being said, I think that the way to go is rather an ESP32 running rtpMidi as a WiFi bridge between a foot controller and the computer. Thatās what Wino2 for FCB1010 is based on, unfortunately the distance is quite poor, just a few meters. I didnāt try with a WiFi repeater yet.
It appears that the box has MIDI via USB - a WIDI UHOST should be able to plug into that.
Your range problem is likely that both the boxes are metal and therefore faraday cages. External radio devices will work much better.
Ohh, checked this cme bt midiā¦. Such a dual plug was included with M-vave choco, unfortunately there is no physical MIDI socket in my portable setup.
There were a topic about someone with some kind of WIFI / BT / ETH MIDI HUB
There are WIDI products for USB as well.
Just ordered a pedal.
Oh, link plz
Oh yes a product example would be great!
They are all over Amazon with different manufacturer names. E.g.
I bet you thought I meant a different type of pedal
No, using exactly this there is one another , costs 4x:
Hotone Ampero Control Bluetooth MIDI.
Basically the same but an extra socket or two in the Holtone. Could buy 3 of the others for the price of the Holtone - now theres an idea
guys, this thread now converges to 600 entries, pls crate new threads, thanks.
Youāre right!
I propose this new topic to continue our conversation :
DMX Improvements
Hi @Spork
Before VST Live (some years ago) I“ve used Bitwig for playing backing tracks and control the lights via DMX. Therefore I have some experience what should be possible in the software.
Here a numbered list for easy responding
- DMX state on every cursor position
Imagine following scenario:
- 4 DMX channels (RGB and dimmer)
- bar 1 ā from colors only red channel on 255
- bar 2 ā from colors only green channel on 255
- bar 3 ā from color blue green channel on 255
- dimmer: ā bar 1 on 180; ā bar 2, 3, 4, 5⦠on 50
If I want to view the light-show I have always start the song from beginning. For easy programming/editing and an effective workflow it should be possible that I can click the cursor as example between bar 2 and 3 and the lights should change to the right values ā green 255 and dimmer 50. In the past IĀ“ve tried it in an older VST live version and had some issues. If I stop during bar one (red 255 dimmer 180) and switched with the cursor to bar 3⦠ā the red light is yet on 255 and dimmer on 180.
I think this occurs because VST live has no DMX command on the cursor position. VST live should track on every DMX channel the last channel command backwards ā Then it eventually works.
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Color for dmx channels
It would be easier to work If DMX channels could be colored. As example I have lights with different dmx channel modes. Light one 10 channel mode, light two 3 channel mode, and so on⦠Coloring would be nice (DMX channel 1-10 blue, channel 11-13 red, and so onā¦) -
Grouping of dmx channels
Another concept could be creating āfolder tracksā for dmx channels. -
Switching dmx channels from normal values (1-255) to percentage mode (1-100%)
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Actions after song ending
It would be nice if I can define actions what should be done after song ending. As example after ending the song all lights (except the front lights) should be switched of. Or blackout should be called. Or other defined scenes. -
Fixture profiles
Some time ago I used Bitwig for DMX and backing tracks playback. It was complicated to program every single dmx channel and especially to program the movement of moving heads. Therefore I only programmed midi commands and routed the via a virtual midi device to the Daslight for software. In Daslight I“ve created different scenes with and assigned a midi command for the buttons.
Since Daslight is a special software for light shows, it naturally has several convenient functions. The first is the usage of fixture profiles (SSL2). Daslight provides a huge database of profiles for different brands and create profiles for missing profiles. The profiles can assigned to dmx channels. The channels/faders then show as example the different states depending on the actual value visually beneath the fader. As example: dmx value 0 = shutter off, dmx value 1-20, shutter on, dmx value 21-100 strobe speed, ā¦
Eventually you can team up with the developers of Daslight and create a database together.
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Copy & past between dmx channels
In bitwig I was able to use the cursor tool and select as example an area between bar 5 and 10 for the channels 52 to 58. The I was able to copy it to other channels/bars to create the same dmx commands for another light on different dmx channels -
Movement generator for movement of moving heads
It is not possible to create movements for moving heads because of the complex programming of the four faders for pan/tilt and the fine movement channels. See functions in Daslight 5 for generating movements (especially the phase control is very nice). -
Global dimmer control