Then I won’t get blinded by this sort of poop. It actually gave me an instant headache.
(This is on a 49" monitor. For some reason the image is reduced from 5120x1440(?))
Another advocate for Cubase on Linux then, eh?
I heard that Microsoft will release a Windows 95 - 30th Anniversary version shortly after the end of service for Windows 10. The ads will pop up unannounced three times a day starting October 15th. I also heard that they picked the UK to launch the campaign.
Fasten your seatbelts, @Googly_Smythe
I use Linux all the time but highly doubt if Steinberg will ever port it to Linux.
My Win 10 PC will no doubt start squawking about it running out soon too.
Too bad but I will not be buying/building another PC just for Windows, they say my current machine is not upgradeable, then so be it.
I switched to a MBP M2 Max last yr and haven’t even run the Windows DAW since.
Same here, I’ve switched all my non-Steinberg activites to Linux, nevertheless I’m due a “hardware refresh” so I will probably end up with a new Windows 11 machine either way – just for Steinberg stuff !
It’s all marketing manipulation, I’ve seen Windows 11 work well (with hacks) on 15-year-old hardware, but of course that’s not “supported”; therefore it’s a totally artificial limitation
Er, no!
They are never UNfastened!
You guys know I was talking about the gargantuan, fullscreen, notification, which popped up out of nowhere in the middle of my work and half-blinded me. That’s apart from the heart attack it gave me. And not Windows, per se.
Linux? Like Cubase, I’ve invested too many years with it.
Windows 11? I’ve tried 3 times in the last 2 years, and I never get past the installing-all-my-software stage before putting Windows 10 back. 11 is just too much work.
Well, the good thing about Win11 is that after about a week of using it, MSFT knows everything there is to know about you and the Edge you disabled will start browsing the internet and replying to emails for you. Pretty sweet feature, really.
This is too close to reality to be funny…
But you made me smile.
THIS will make you smile for sure, then:
Fire up your favorite packet capture app (I bet you’re a Wireshark kinda guy). With everything else closed, open MSFT Edge and go directly to Google_com and type in something you’ve never typed in before, like “Famous Scottish Bus Drivers” but DON’T click search yet. In Wireshark, watch the packets scroll by until activity has stopped.
Now click “search.” Remarkably, without actually interacting with the Edge app at all, when you click search you’ll see a post to browser.events.data.microsoft.com . Now ask yourself, “Self, why did MSFT post back to themselves in Edge when WITHIN GOOGLE’S WEB FORM, I clicked ‘search?’” Now inspect the packets. Now ask yourself “Self, this data is, of course, encrypted by HTTPS, but for some odd reason I don’t see the PKI exchange back to Bing’s servers. How could that be?”
Your self has asked you some really good questions, huh? Even if you set up an HTTPS bridge for HTTP inspection, you’ll see the packets are STILL encrypted, but without a PKI exchange. Now, I’m no actor, but I play one on TV, and it seems to me the only way you can exchange encrypted blobs without PKI is if both parties already have the key right? So Edge is posting preshared-key-encrypted-data back to MSFT when you search for something in Google. What do you think that could be?
You’re laughing NOW right???
Er, NO!
I don’t even know what that is. Don’t forget, I am a just hobbyist. My main credential is that I drove a bus for 27 years (in London and Edinburgh - not at the same time!).
My previous laughter was of the sickly sort.
And, to quote myself:
Or Microsoft, even.
My monitor is 4 feet from corner to corner - all that white in a dark room was just too much.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Smart man
I’m shocked.
I cannot imagine that this would fly unnoticed in Europe with its legal system being in place. Is this a US only thing? If not, how can I prevent MSFT from doing so? (Buying a Mac is not an acceptable response… )
These little spying bas…
If it’s the CORRECT response, it must be ACCEPTABLE!!!
I’m not aware of region-dependent installations of Edge, but system locality may be baked into the “feature.” Even on RDG Session Hosts where one CAN uninstall Edge, MSFT has deliberately put into place an explicit, default setting for Outlook to use Edge for all links, even when you have changed this at the system level they still force you to change it:
Further, even once you uninstalled Edge, MSFT has explicitly forced Outlook to use the “Webview2” components to render web content IN EDGE ANYWAY. If you uninstall Webview2, Outlook won’t even run. Let me say that again - irrespective of the system browser select, and regardless of whether you have uninstalled Edge, MSFT still FORCES the use of Edge rendering components (and subsequent collection of data) in their Office application.
So I’m dubious as to whether there are any effective EU considerations that have not been bypassed by way of EULA.
Er, NO!
Wow, thanks @Thor.HOG for sharing your professional expertise! I really didn’t know!
Hiding these features somewhere under the hood - not cool, MSFT. I will look into it even though I have always avoided Outlook for having a dubious reputation in the first place. I can’t replace Office for the foreseeable future but I will definetly have a closer look.
As much as I appreciate your well meant advice to enter the Apple universe - not going to happen. I’d rather rebuild a Z3 machine Konrad Zuse style and tweak it until compatible with Cubase 14. Forget tiny micro chips - I’ll let the lights flicker all over town whenever I add a mono delay to a track…
EDIT - moved to PM. I shouldn’t have posted that publicly.
This is not just for Outlook, there are many products out there that rely on the Webview2 components, like the Steinberg Hub in Cubase and Dorico
Of course we will transfer the Cubase software to punch cards in that case
Reminds me about times long ago…