You’re right. I just don’t see any option to buy a perpetual license here.
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Except that it was half of that at the launch of the new version, for a limited time.
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That feature is Nuendo exclusive, that’s why I mentioned it here.
Are you expecting Avid to communicate with nuendo? That would totally wipe out there advantage they have with PT. In our dreams
Well with the new private owners and the CEO stepping down early next year…just have to wait and see what Avid decides to do moving forward.
No I’m not expecting that at all. That’s why I said SB would/should try to partner with someone else if they wanted to compete on that feature.
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Didn’t realize that. Odd.
I’m expecting Premiere Pro to communicate with Nuendo. Or rather, Nuendo to communicate with it.
I don’t expect that will happen any time soon, unfortunately. But if that DOES happen, then be very afraid that Adobe just bought Steinberg from Yamaha. And then you’ll be paying Adobe a subscription fee for Nuendo. That would be a dark day.
Sadly, it’s not likely going to happen that any of the top video NLEs will cooperate with any third-party DAW to adopt a new, open standard to exchange files like that, unless there is wider pressure and a growing industry-wide movement…
A potentially good starting point is that Steinberg COULD jump on board the Hamburg train to Berlin with Presonus and Bitwig and adopt the open DAWproject file format that they introduced recently. It’s pretty good from my testing so far. The github page is here: GitHub - bitwig/dawproject: Open exchange format for DAWs
Someone in the Reaper camp already introduced a script for Reaper too, so that now Studio One, Bitwig, and Reaper are able to share projects much more easily with each other. I think if we can push other DAW developers to jump in, it would be great for everyone.
So if Steinberg joined in, that would be fantastic IMO. And if Avid would join in… and so forth, then we might see some real momentum that the video NLE developers would really pay attention and they might start adopting that format too.
And if not DAWproject, then someone needs to start another open standard like it, and it needs to come from the bottom up. No way the big NLEs will want to do it any time soon without outside pressure.
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Hang on for one of Steinberg’s promos then, I’m positive Steinberg will offer the update for 30-50% off at some point. Always happens. Might be as soon as Black Friday, although that’s coming up really soon, so I doubt it due to the proximity of the N13 release. But who knows. In any case, you can expect a discount in the future.
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It won’t be higher than the Nuendo update price 
And if that would give me nice interoperability between PPro and Nuendo, it might be worth it.
No need, I have no intention to upgrade.
This generation brings too little of interest to me, either when it comes to common Cubase-Nuendo features or Nuendo exclusive ones.
Few nice but not essential workflow features from the Cubase side, accompanied by very dubious visual developments, and nothing on the Nuendo side at all.
Interesting - This has peaked my interest for sure, since I’ve had bad performance from a RTX3080 for video playback and need to use a blackmagic card, though there are times I’d like to stream my monitor and only can do that properly through my graphics card.
Have been monkeying around with N13 this afternoon… and it’s great. The smoother graphics make me very happy. That in and of itself makes the update worth it for me. As a pretty omnivorous user (more or less equally divided between music and post, with some sound design for good measure) I’m looking forward to checking out some of the other enhancements before commenting…
…other than that to me it feels pretty ludicrous to be complaining about upgrade price, at least here in the US. It’s a great deal for pro software. The cost of half an hour’s work on a cheap project? No problem!
YMMV
Chewy
VoiceSeparator is unusable.
This is the way to test (DOP or insert plugin - doesn’t matter)
Find the speech with talking right at the beginning
and setup like this:
listen to the first few seconds - you hear that speech penetrates the noise layer (and vice versa)
It sounds like it’s learning in the first few seconds.
regards, Alex
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I think what you are quoting is about “Dialogue isolate”, not video playback.
Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.
A lot of times when I’m working with clients what they say is “There’s a lot of background noise” and if I then reduce the noise by even just 50% they will accept that improvement. The alternative of round-tripping to RX might yield a better result, but it might both be more than is needed (depending on content) and be too time consuming.
This plugin is eating good signal (first few secs)
Is it good? - I don’t think so…
regards, Alex
Yes, had the same problem in my test. First syllable is damaged, then after that it’s good. Like a warm-up/learning delay.
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Eating good signal at negative infinity? Slider all the way down?