Patterns dragged from the Groove Agent 6 "pattern player" to Cubase 15 are incorrect

Patterns dragged from the Groove Agent 6 “pattern player” to Cubase 15 are incorrect.
Patterns dragged from the Groove Agent 6 “Midi Player” into Cubase 15 are correct.

Windows 11 Pro 25H2

Grovve Agent 6.0.20.1050(64 bit)
Cubase PRO 15.0.10 Build 164(x64)
MOTU Ultralite mk5

Hi Michiro_Sato,

I wasn’t able to reproduce the issue here. Does it happen every time on your machine? Also, with different kinds of pattern?

Cheers,
Jan

Hello Jan!

Does it happen every time on your machine?

Yes.

Also, with different kinds of pattern?

Yes.

I made a video explaining the bug.
The patterns are also easy to understand because they use factory presets.

This is a copy of the “Fill 7” pattern from the “Accept the Offer” kit in the “PUNCH KIT” via “Style Player” → “Midi Player” → “Pattern Player.”
When switching from “Midi Player” to “Pattern Player”, the information for “Crash A” and “Crash C” is missing.
When dragging from “Pattern Player” to Cubase, some of the information for “Tom A” is missing.

Hi Michiro_Sato,

Please check if changing the buffer size and sample rate of your asio driver makes a difference. Also, try to use another audio driver. Maybe the Generic low Latency or Steinberg built-in driver.
Unfortunately, I still cannot reproduce the issue here.

Cheers,
Jan

What?
That’s a strange story.
I feel like I’ve been transported to another parallel world.

I also tried it with the “Steinberg Built-in ASIO Driver” and “Generic low Latency Driver” on another of my laptops, but the results were exactly the same.

laptop PC(IStNXi-14FH056-i5_-UHXXB-30TH)
Intel core i5-10210U CPU 1.60GHz
16 GB RAM
Realtek Audio (Steinberg Built-in ASIO Driver and Generic low Latency Driver)
Intel UHD Graphics 128MB
Windows 11 Home 25H2
Grovve Agent 6.0.20.1050(64 bit)
Cubase PRO 15.0.10 Build 164(x64)

Desktop PC (Motherboard : Asus PRIME Z790-P D4-CSM)
12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400F
16 GB RAM
MOTU Ultralite mk5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Grovve Agent 6.0.20.1050(64 bit)
Cubase PRO 15.0.10 Build 164(x64)

Could you tell us the machine you tested and its specs? Jan?

I also tried it with the “Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver” on my laptops MOTU M4
The results were exactly the same.

@Michiro_Sato I am not sure if it helps, if you know the specs of my machines here. But it is a MacBook Air M2 and a Lenovo Thinkpad X1.

OK! Thank you Jan!
So, does your Lenovo Thinkpad X1 have Windows 11 installed? And the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 doesn’t have the bug I’m talking about?

I tried your test using “Fill 7” above but I cannot reproduce the error. I see (and hear) the “missing” hit on Tom A.

Perhaps check your drum map? I chose “Create Drum Map from Instrument”.

Thank you for your comment.
I understand that there is no problem in your environment.
But I don’t understand what you mean.
I don’t think Groove Agent 6 has a feature called “Create Drum Map from Instrument”.

@Michiro_Sato Yes, Windows 11 is installed.

It’s a Cubase feature, select the MIDI track in Cubase and check the Track Inspector:

Thank you MrSoundman for your kind advice.
But my poor brain couldn’t understand that what you were saying was related to my troubles. Sorry.
So I’ll try contacting Japanese support.
Please give me a moment.

I have exactly the same problem. When I am dragging the pattern as midi in transport, it’s not the same and the midi notes are incorrect transpose. this is nothing to do with buffer size! Are you using AI to write the code in Steinberg? Please fix it. If the solution is to transpose the drum map then it’s a bug. The beat agent 4 is working fine, but for vintage kits and The Kit at least bug is there. Maybe in the wholde acoustic kits and I am not going to do the debugging work for you.

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If you read above you will see that this is not happening on every system.

Perhaps it would be more useful if you described your problem in more detail, as well as how to reproduce it, step by step. Until the issue is reproducible, nobody can fix it.

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