Now, this is something I hope I can explain clearly:-
If you edit a patch in PROG (lets say the RELEASE TIME of FRETLESS BASS ), you would increase the ‘R’ parameter (using the ‘A~H’ keypad under the display) to (say) '+10’. No problem.
And you decide you are quite happy with this EDIT and wish to SAVE it. Lets assume for now you simply OVERWRITE it (ie to the same location). Again, no problem.
Then a couple of gigs down the line you decide that in actual fact, there is too much RELEASE TIME applied to the FRETLESS BASS patch. The obviously thing to do would be to re-enter PROG mode, and re-adjust the RELEASE TIME again to suit your needs. In theory this is ok, but the problem (for me) is that:-
When you visually look at the RELEASE TIME setting, it does not say (as I would have thought/hoped) ‘+10’, but defaults back to ZERO! Ok, so most people, even after a few beers would remember that they increased the RELEASE TIME by ‘+10’, but what if you had altered several parameters? And you wanted to re-set the patch to its DEFAULT and then start again from fresh. You would be totally screwed because all of the ‘A~H’ parameters will be showing ZEROS and there would be no way of knowing/remembering what you had initially adjusted!
In which case, lets say you EDIT a few of the ‘A~H’ parameters and before you SAVE it, the screen will look something like:-
Att=+10 / Dec=-2/ Sus=+6/ Rel=-9/ and so on…
That’s great, but when you exit PROG and then return to it (the same patch) again, the display reads:-
Att=0 / Dec=0/ Sus=0/ Rel=0/ and so on…!
Surely it would be better to show:-
Att=+10 / Dec=-2/ Sus=+6/ Rel=-9/ and so on… because then you can see (compare) how/what has been changed compared to the factory DEFAULT!?
This has played on my mind for about 20 x years of so, believe it or not!
Please find copy of dialogue between myself and KORG below.
Dear Mr Seaman,
That’s a limitation of this particular instrument as explained on page 13 of the M1 owner’s manual. When in PROG mode, those values will always be reset to 0 since changes made in this mode are meant only for realtime/performance purposes. For editing purposes, PROG EDIT should be used.
KORG UK Ltd
Thank you very much indeed for your extremely helpful reply.
Yes understand that this is very useful for making LIVE edits during a performance (just like you can on an analogue synth), thank you. But my question was more relating to PROGRAMING. To be precise, if I EDITED a FACTORY PRESET (say a STRINGS) and made the RELEASE TIME value '+10 ’ (because I wanted it to be extremely long!). The DISPLAY would obviously be showing RELEASE = +10. No problem.
So then I STORE this EDIT (ie I OVERWRITE the original location) because I want to keep it. No problem.
Then later on I decide that I preferred the ORIGINAL FACTORY PRESET. I enter PROG mode and look at the display, but instead of it saying RELEASE TIME = +10 (which is what I EDITED/PROGRAMED it to be earlier) it says RELEASE TIME = O. Now this is my problem in that why does it not say RELEASE TIME = +10 because this would be far more logical (and useful) to the user because he would be able to see what CHANGES he made to the sound (and how his EDITS compared to the ORIGINAL sound). And more importantly, he would be able to RESET them easily if he needed to! But having all of the EDIT VALUES return to ZERO (even though AURALLY they are modified) seems very strange and confusing to me I am afraid!? This means that every time you want to EDIT your PROG sound(s), you have to start from a DISPLAY (point) where everything says ZERO!
I hope that I have explained it a little better for you here this time.
I understood your description the first time around but, as I said, that’s just the way it is with the M1. There isn’t a way of changing that. For editing, we recommend using PROG EDIT mode.
With regards to the change in the timbre’s character when changing octave, that is because the original programmers felt it reflected better the way this change sounded in the real world. In other words, most instruments will sound brighter in higher registers than in their lower registers although this is also affected by whatever device you are connecting the instrument to.
KORG UK Ltd