Yeah that’s interesting because Ableton Live and FL Studio are seemingly more stable on my computer aswell.
But then you hear other people who have trouble with the other DAWs too 
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Yeah there’s not much hope for us real-time audio computer users lol.
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It’s unbelievable, reading the arcane insidious details of the random elements that will make a Windows/PC malfunction. Nvidia, the drivers, Microsoft, the cards, the drives, chipsets, motherboard, power settings, the incessant tinkering. And “building it myself”, then wondering why, for instance, Cubase, doesn’t work correctly, and a lot of people then blaming Steinberg etc. Just to save a few $? MatthewJohn’s point about switching to a Mac is common sense times a million. Why not let the computer builders build computers, car builders build cars etc. I have never once had a major problem with any version of Cubase, since Cubase 4, on any Mac I’ve ever owned from that era to these times. Which is a lot. And Mac users that seem to have problems with Cubase seem also be inexperienced with the platform, and continue tinkering with settings and third-party plug-ins just to collect them, without actually using them. Sure, maybe the end user has a problem because reading a manual is just too tiresome etc. 99% of all these users’ problems with Cubase, any version, comes down to the Windows/PC platform. Just to say that beating a dead horse year after year after year cannot be worth the hassle. Would it not be more constructive and enjoyable to spend time actually creating music, than hobby away over and over and over? Unless that’s your thing? Let the hounds begin baying, but truly, common sense and the path of least resistance is simply the most satisfying and simple answer. Sorry to “offend” any PC folks that will take personal offense at any of this. I speak from massive experience.
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I tried Studio One years ago– I think when it first came out. The interface was super nice. Reaper is insanely solid, I’ve been using it since 2009 or so. Best coded DAW there is. For my regular DAW work, I really like working with Cubase – the work-flow suits me well.
Studio One CPU usage is not great though and they didn’t add many new simple features for ages. Fender took them over too. Cubase was a lovely change with CPU usage and I found the latest version very close to Reapers performance in that area.
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Oh, I didn’t know Fender bought Studio One — that can’t be good. Like when Gibson bought Sonar…didn’t turn out well. Yeah, Cubase 14 is great: good performance, lots of new features. I’ve been using Cubase full-time for over 10 years and I don’t know half the features. But that doesn’t matter. It does what I need it to do, and if I need more, it’s usually there and easy to find.
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There’s alot of assumptions in your statements, which is unfair to users who are genuinely experiencing issues with Cubase on both MAC and Windows. Just count yourself lucky that you are not experiencing any issues.
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Yes and pushed for more of the subscription thing. I did use the hell out of it though. The ASIO guard thing blew my mind when I got cubase lol. Seeing a small % of cpu usage was insane. I liked the channel strip and the sampler. Has all the FX/Tools I could wish for also.
I think fairies and wizards made Reaper. So I have both for now.
Hahahahahaha…yep.
Hahahahahahaa…yep. Justin Frankel (founder) and John Schwartz I think are the main (only?) developers there. Amazing work, and they listen to their users on their forum.
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Is he like Gandalf 
Edit: Wait only 2 guys run the show?
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Yep! Amazing, huh?
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Hi @T-Cup ,
great that you mention the chipsets.
Often, a Windows 10 / 11 PC will just run on Microsoft’s standard plug-and-play chipset drivers, certified as WHQL drivers by Microsoft. Most software will of course run fine with them, like all those widespread multimedia applications, office programs, less resource-hungry games, etc.
Only when it comes to high level performance tasks with a large number of parallel threads and sub-threads, including real-time applications or functions, there may sometimes happen strange bottleneck effects due to slightly underperforming chipset driver functions. Those are related to accessing any high-bandwith and highly timing critical hardware components and their data controller interfaces. Like it’s the case with SSDs / NVMe storagage media, or with PCIe lanes, or with USB 3 /4 or Thunderbolt controllers, or with very fast RAM banks, etc. Also, all the data communication between the CPU, the GPU, various chipset ICs etc. would certainly profit from manufacturer optimized drivers to work perfectly, since everything a PC “does” runs through its mainboard’s infrastructure.
That’s why only sticking to Microsoft’s plug-and-play drivers may not always be the best idea. The majority of OEM manufacturers constantly release new chip and mainboard revisions. Regarding their often very short development cycles, they tend to bring minor hardware changes. That’s why a mainboard manufacturer’s specific chipset drivers - including their most recent updates - are often the better choice. Even if Microsoft states “WHQL” as a standard, with most of their default catalogue drivers.
(my 2 cts)
Best,
Markus
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Hi @T-Cup ,
Hi Markus 
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The thing that frustrates me the most is how a computer can pass LatencyMon analysis. The real-time audio performance inside the DAW seems to work fine, but the application itself is plagued with other unexplainable and unresolvable bugs.
- Report bug to Steinberg - they can’t reproduce it
- Test your RAM stability with Memtest86+ - the results pass
- Test CPU stability with stress test - the results pass
- Other users on the same computer platform as you experiencing no issues
Where is a user supposed to go from there besides buying a new computer ? lol
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Hi @wavefunktion ,
good question. 
Yet I think that Steinberg aren’t the culprit, since in the overwhelming majority of cases they’d always try and optimize their software products as reliably as they can (if made aware). The sheer complexity of modern computers isn’t something that can go without any errors, including any modern OS.
There are so many “invisible” (minuscule) things that probably can’t be analyzed thoroughly and successfully without at least having a degree in electronics AND / OR informatics, including the matching lab measurement devices and skills, etc.
Besides:
as a first workaround, I’d always try and keep all those things off of my audio machines that could disturb or compromise performance. Cable connectors should sit perfectly in their jacks, also USB (or other) data cables should be of higher quality. Then I’d look after ALL drivers. Then I’d try and find / install the latest software libraries, like VC++ redistributable packages, DOT.NET, and whatever would also be needed. Inside a PC, temperatures should be under control, heat sinks (also inside a PSU) should be without dust, all those things can at least contribute to performance problems, or accumulate in such a way that one might notice them. Also using “cleanmgr.exe” from time to time can help in getting rid of data clutter (old installer files, temp files, etc). Storage media optimization (TRIM) can also help in keeping an SSD tidy, not looking after this can in fact affect controller access performance (sometimes).
Cheers,
Markus
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I think i’m going to try using Microsoft Windows LTSC next time. Users shouldn’t need to live in fear of Windows updates changing and breaking things.
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Mac are by one particular company. PCs are by many different companies and parts. Why would you then buy an off the shelf PC hoping for the best. There are plenty of places that build and test PCs specifically for music applications. They also offer support. I used to build my own but find it easier in my case to use SCAN (UK). You can read their specs and build yourself but you don’t actually save that much plus you may get a faulty part etc.
So buying a Mac takes the hassle out of it and buying from an audio PC maker does. I personally prefer a PC as you’re not stuck with what you bought as you can upgrade it. I’ve done that many times. My first i7 I used for 10 years and my son still uses it now. My i9 I bought in 2019 is still going strong on win 11 now.
It all depends on what you are used to.
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All good points! Have you used Scan? I’m about to get a new desktop, and I’m on the fence whether to go mac or use a company like Scan, so looking for info. I built my own PC in 2015, and a friend who worked for a company like scan helped me source parts. It’s been an incredible machine – just too old now. How many Cubase and Protools crashes in 10 years on that machine? One in cubase and two in Protools in 10 years – that’s it!!! But it took too much time to research and built and tweak before it was ready, and I really only saved like two hundred euros – but lost 500 euros in production work doing it, so it makes no sense to build one myself.
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