Sorry to hear youāve been hit by this too many times. My experience is in fact the opposite. I know there are some pieces of hardware that Yamaha/Steinberg discontinued earlier than others, but Iāve been doing this for a long time too, and Iād put Yamaha/Steinberg in the better group for driver support, compared to many other companies. You have every right to disagree with me of course, and there are examples that support your position. But there are also many examples of good to very good long-term driver support that go beyond reasonable expectations too.
Granted, MacOS is a tougher situation, and as a former MacOS user, I got screwed over by many developers over the years, especially and most importantly by Apple itself, breaking things more often than fixing things in my experience. One of the many reasons I finally quit Apple. But in any case, we can agree that any software developer is going to have extra support costs with Apple, especially in recent years with the Apple Silicon stuff and driver model changes, which is impacting everyone, including one of my favorite companies, RME, which has one of the best track records of all. Most companies donāt fare well when compared to RME. So if longevity is the highest priority, then RME is a very good bet.
The question for Yamaha/Steinberg becomes how long is it reasonable to expect something to be supported in this industry? I get it that you donāt have confidence based on your experience with Macs, but if we do a fair comparison, Yamaha/Steinberg still comes out very good in many cases.
On Windows, itās even better of course.
Iāll give a few examples:
Letās start with the immediate spiritual predecessor of the CC1 (the topic of the thread, right?), which IMO was the CC121, which I owned and loved. The CC121 was originally released I believe in 2008. How long do you think Steinberg should support it? 5 years? 10 years? 18 years?
Windows 11 is actually technically still supported⦠18 ā EIGHTEEN ā years later. Now I no longer have the CC121 and I canāt vouch for it working perfectly, I sold my CC121 several years ago (great resale value too!), but thereās a Windows 11 compatible driver on the Steinberg site. Wow! 18 years!
MacOS was supported up through about 2022 if I recall and it supposedly worked on Rosetta, but I donāt believe they released native Apple Silicon support. So youāre right in that sense for MacOS, but letās see what that adds up to ā 14 ā FOURTEEN ā years of support. Still pretty good by any standard if you ask me! 14!
They finally had to discontinue the CC121 hardware because parts were simply not available. No doubt they started planning for the CC1 back then.
Hereās another example ā Steinbergās USB audio devices such as the old UR series⦠letās rewind time back to the UR22, UR28M, and UR824, for example. Those came out in the 2011-2012 timeframe I believe. Iāve owned a bunch of that line of interfaces over the years, and still have a few left of more recent generations in the studio somewhere. They are reliable little workhorses, build like little tanks. Letās look at the support for 2026:
The Yamaha Steinberg USB driver STILL supports all the way back to those devices, and is current today on Windows 11, and SOME of the devices are even still supported on macOS 26 Tahoe today⦠and not only that, several of them are EVEN supported on Windows 11 on ARM too! Thatās kind of impressive if you ask me. Windows on ARM support for some of them? Borderline crazy. Thatās 14 ā FOURTEEN ā years of support, even for Apple Silicon and Windows on ARM today. Letās give some credit to Steinberg/Yamaha, come on!
How many other hardware companies can you say are hitting that kind of longevity and platform support? Yes, there are some, but itās a short list.
So I really think when it comes to a certain class of mass-produced hardware, Steinberg/Yamaha has a GOOD track record of support over time IMO.
If we take a look at Nuage, for example, thatās a more complex story, niche product, much more expensive to produce and maintain. But even if we use that as an example of Steinberg/Yamaha not investing long-term in it ā and I wonāt argue with you in certain respects ā letās look at OS compatibility as of 2026 ā Nuage is still technically compatible with Windows 11 on Nuendo 14 and Cubase 14, as of Tools 2.2.0. On MacOS, it only goes up MacOS 15 from what I can see, and Iāll assume itās not Apple Silicon native.
So Nuage was announced in about 2012, and letās say on Macs its (debatable) lifespan for cutting edge OS use was up to about 2022 if we factor in lack of native Apple Silicon to be picky about this. In fact, Iām not totally up to date on Nuage situation today, are we even sure yet theyāve announced no support for Apple SIlicon? I havenāt been following it lately. Either way, worst case scenario, thatās still 10 years on Macs, and much more on Windowsā¦
So I get it if you bought Nuage more recently as a Mac user, and thought youād have more years out of it. And I get it if you bought something at the end of its lifespan, and got fewer years out of it than you hoped. Thatās the case with any hardware developer unfortunately.
And Iām sure we can cherry pick a Steinberg product that got the short end of the stick of driver support, but considering the relative simplicity of the CC1, and considering the target market, and considering the number of units they are likely to sell⦠well, I think we can count on AT LEAST 10 years of driver support, right? Probably much more if we look at the Yamaha/Steinberg USB driver support listā¦
Thatās AT LEAST 10 years of support worst case scenario, barring the bankruptcy of Yamaha and Steinberg. Seriously, I donāt know what the world will look like in 10 years, but itās HIGHLY likely that by 2036 Iāll still be feeling perfectly fine about paying $400 for the CC1 in 2026.
I just donāt think we have anything to worry about when it comes to driver support for the CC1, at least for a long time.