Assigning Mackie MCU function buttons

Hi,
I have the top row of 8 functions buttons (and the function-button + shift) assigned nicely, but it doesn’t seem that Cubase allows me to assign commands to the bottom 8 buttons of the function set.

Is this correct? If not, how-to?

Cheers

See Page 10 section “Applying Channel Visibility Presets and Channel Types” here:-
http://download.steinberg.net/downloads_software/documentation/Remote_Control_Devices.pdf

Basically that second row is the channel visibility mode, you can setup your own (1-8) configurations/views in the mixer and these buttons recall those views on the fly.
Holding Shift and one of those buttons will give you the option to show by type only which are defaults built in to Cubase.

It’s very handy feature as you can create channel presets that only show drum mixer lanes, guitars, bass, FX Chans/Groups etc. So yeah, bit of a bummer that you can’t map yourself, but it’s well worth learning those functions as it makes using an MCU so much better and less cluttered being able to focus on groups of channels at a time.

For example, how i’m setup is that in my projects drums only show as a single track which is the drum group, if i press my button 2 the mixer will show the separate drum channels if i want to mix in detail each element, 3 takes me to guitars, 4 to vocals, and 5 is all my main groups (Of which i try to keep to 8 max to fit on one MCU unit) And then presets 6-8 will depend on the song. I have that all in a template for all new projects so is standard for me, and 1 is my default view.

I use a QconPro under Mackie MCU in Cubase, and have all 16 function buttons (8 plus sft+8) and they are freely assignable to any key command, LE command. PLE command, or any combination of those making up a macro.

This would include assigned configuration views for the mix console, assuming you have set them up, however like workspaces, I think you may be limited to 8 or 9 KC presets.

Doesnt Mackie protocol call for a total of 16 assignable function buttons? When you select Mackie MCU, it should show for example both F1 and sft.+F1. When you say Cubase doesnt seem to allow sft. commands, what is happening? You should click in those columns and get a drop-down of selectable commands.

Thanks guys. This really helps.

greggybud: true that it allows for 8 x function / 8 x function+shift, but it’s the same 8 buttons. The MCU has two physical rows of 8 buttons, and the lower 8 are not addressable via the cubase setup dialogue. I think skijumptoes has it right about using them as access to mixer views.

Edit: I have a tape label under the top 8 buttons…obscuring the words “fader banks” that refer to the lower 8…so, my bad? Still, great info from you cats…thanks

Cheers

Thanks, skijumptoes. I haven’t bothered with those 8 buttons but you’re right, that would be super useful. Going to start making better use of that feature.

It’s well worth getting them in your workflow, i love being able to quickly get to my group channels so i can raise/lower/mute/solo all drums, all guitars etc. Plus hiding the individual drum tracks is a blessing if you’re using multi-mic kits or VSTi’s.

It does take a bit of setting up as you need to route all your tracks into parent/group channels, but now it’s in my template i’m good.
Here’s a quick guide on how to set up those configuration presets:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5GCkx6nk6Q

Something doesn’t make sense to me, so please be patient. There are a few hardwired differences between QconPro and MCUpro, but not that many.

Part of MCU protocol is 8 function buttons with shift for a total of 16. That is MCU protocl and that doesn’t change. The Cubase overlay has altered that to 8 and the next 8 assigned to fader banks. I’ll assume that is an alteration that Cubase has made in conjunction to the MCU protocol?

Attached is MCUpro with no overlay for reference.

Did you check this in both Cubase and Compatibility mode? I think you will discover some differences, but it’s going to be dependent on your DAW controller for the differences.

So you are saying that if you assign for example (see attachment) F1>category>Workspaces then Command>Workspace 4 then when you press F1 Workspace 4 will show up. But if you then assign Sft+F1>category>Workspaces>Command> Workspace 1…then Workspace 1 over-rides workspace 4 that you just entered? So pressing F1 now brings up Workspace 1?

What happens, under the Cubase overlay, press and hold sft and press F1? Does that not bring up the proper command?

In the manual it says “The right FADER BANKS section contains the buttons 1 to 8” But I’m not sure what that means. By default does that achieve the same as the left bank shift button (except for example if you press the right fader bank button 3 it automatically shifts to tracks 25-32 instead of pressing the shift bank button 3 times?

Or as I think Skipjones said they are hard-wired to the fist 8 mix console configuration slots found in the Cubase key commands?

It seems odd to me that Steinberg would alter this and sacrifice 8 freely assignable function buttons for 8 hard-wired mix configuration presets when even the mix console configuration settings can be assigned to function buttons just like anything else in key commands. While my current set up is for 8 workspaces, I could simply change that to 8 mix console configuations.

What am I missing here?


On your attached screenshot the F1-F8 (Function Select) buttons are the ones you can freely map in the Remote Device setup, and the shift+ mappings also.

The ‘Global View’ section however is devoted to Mixer visibility presets if you have any setup in your project, or if you press those with the shift held they will swap between the built in visibility settings. (All/Audio/Groups/FX/Inst/MIDI/IO/All).

Note: this is the actual overlay for cubase/mcu, but the actual function in Cubase has changed since it’s inception (Thats why i have tape on mine):-
https://static.bax-shop.es/image/product/51817/166715/7d67c8a6/450x450/Mackie_overlay_Cubase.jpg

To eliminate nomenclature issues, when you say “mixer visibility presets” you mean mix console configurations? Also wondering what “global view section” is because I can’t find any Cubase reference to that.

So the function buttons F1-F8 plus sftF1-F8 are working as intended? This is where I misunderstood the OP as I thought he was saying he could not get the sftF1-sftF8 to work. His intention was for sftF1-sftF8 to show up in the lower 8 buttons that have nothing to do with the function buttons, but have been modified by Steinberg to be used as 8 presets for mix configuration?

Yeah F1-F8 and Shift+F1-F8 all work fine, the OP was asking if the lower physical buttons (Fader banks section on the original Mackie steinberg overlay) could be custom mapped - but they can’t.

And by ‘mixer visibility presets’ i mean channel visibility presets like in the video i linked earlier - i think me using the word mixer confused things :slight_smile: :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5GCkx6nk6Q

You define the tracks you would like to be visible and then save as a preset, from the MCU buttons you can quickly toggle between - very handy. Mixer configurations are recalling mixer presets,of course - so sorry to mislead on that, that’s not what those buttons perform.

Global View section is the original MCU wording (i.e. without overlay), Steinberg refer to that section as Fader Banks on their overlay, but are in fact visibility functions in the newer MCU implementation/mode.