''Back Up Project'' Shrinks 'Sampler Track' samples to nothing

I don’t know if this is reported or known or my mistake but, when I back up a project and check minimize audio files, the sampler track files get lost with an empty sampler track that still has the name and start end locators shrinked at the beginning.
Cubase Pro 11.0.1 Mac Mojave

Steps to produce:

  • Create an empty project
  • Create a sampler track with any audio file by dragging from the browser
  • Select Back up Project
    -choose/create the folder
  • Check ‘minimize audio files’ from the preferences’
    -name the project and save

Result: The file is gone from the sampler track ,

Start and end locators are shrunk at the beginning
and can not be moved,


Thank You,

I was going to do that but was not sure if this was indeed a bug or user error.

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You can edit your original post if you like.

Got it.
Thanks again!

This is either the same bug or a different bug, but either way, is definitely relative to:

So I’ll tag @Spork , as the previously discussed bug was supposedly fixed as per Sporks later post in the same thread

But according to @SteveHelstrip and @WK1 this is not the case

For me, the latest update from 11 to 11.x on Catalina also broke down the Sampler Track file storage functionality.

Im back at 11.0 and it all works, and its awesome.

PS.Not shure what is happening, but i believe Apple makes it almost impossible for Steinie to do things right, file permission wise and what not. MacOS changes files systems and deep OS functionality on a whim, so all 3rd party devs (and even worse, the MacOS vst plugin devs) are in a very difficult position.

on the latter yes, why I actively encourage people to ditch Apple. The whole “more stable than Windows” thing although effective marketing was mostly a myth.

Apple/Mac OS is a user experience company and platform, not an engineering platform. Cubase is very much an engineering program - more so than any other DAW when you look at things like Project Logical Editor, the MIDI input channel topology, etc. This is a program for serious engineers, and Mac OS is simply not an engineering OS.

Just think about the amount of resources and lost time this must cost Steinberg, that could go into developing the program.

I actually think it is Apple trying to kill the competition, because surely, Logic has all the “inside information” before anyone else does.

Switching from macOS to Windows | MeldaProduction

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Ongoing bugs with sampler tracks are exhausting. I’m no longer using them because it’s impossible to archive projects reliably. Ridiculous.

I think I posted a workaround somewhere in one of your threads, can’t remember

After dragging in sample from browser into Sampler Track


1.) ‘Prepare Archive’ in pool
2.) Redrag the Sampler Track file from the pool back into the Sampler Track

now try your backup

We’ve been here a thousand times. It’s broken.

yes that works…

you can combine macros to do these things, so it super fast:

1.Audio - Find Selected In Pool
2.Media - Reveal In Finder

From here you can copy to a safe place, rename if needed, and drag back into Sampler with lock on.
This way you also have a backup from any cool sounds you made for later use.
I have a big folder with all my Sampler Track samples.

Hi, I found one workaround. Don’t tick “minimize audio files”. Let’s hope Steinberg notices this bug soon.

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let me try this now

5 minutes later: yeeey this seems to work! thanks Shazee!!

now I need a way to clean up big imported audio files before backing up