is there yet any way to do a "left-opening" laissez vibrer tie in Dorico 3?

There have been many more recent threads visiting this same long-requested feature. Here’s a useful one explaining the workaround:

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Curious if there’s any update on whether they’re going to implement a proper implementation of this that doesn’t require workarounds. With all of these recent incredible advancements it just feels like this strange withstanding thing…
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Not yet. Let’s hope for the next big update — John Barron said at NAMM there would probably be many improvements in the Notation side of the program (in his interview with @Philip Rothman) , and this is clearly the main problem (meaning, that would benefit most users) left to solve :person_shrugging:

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Hi @robjohn9999, among the many workarounds, one that is relatively comfortable is to use a hidden grace note tied to the desired note (suppress playback for it). For correct playback see below *:


(*)EDIT/Add-On
To handle the correct playback, here is how to achieve this (also this I learned from the Forum, but dont find the post…):

  • suppress playback of the note in the second ending (beside suppressing the playback for the grace note)
  • suppress the playback of the tied note (in first voice) before first ending for pass 2
  • create second voice with a shorter duration (to not have ties) in unison with the first tied note, change its voice column to 0
  • suppress the playback of the note in the second voice for pass 1
  • in key editor/Played Durations extend the second voice note for the appropriate needed length

Complete Workflow Video (create 2nd ending tie and correct the playback):

Dorico file (grace note on second ending with correct playback):

tie on second ending and correct playback.dorico (523.7 KB)

(sorry for the unnecessary little ride in Notation Options in the video, and also is possible flip the tie in the first bar, from Engrave mode)

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Brilliant as ever, @Christian_R — thanks!

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Thank you @MarcLarcher to pointing out the interview, that I missed. :pray:
For everyone interested here the link:

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Amazing – never thought of that and that’s a great idea (though still also looking for a non-workaround solution of course :-))

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Genius! So much easier than using an lv tie. Note that you can also hide ledger lines in engrave mode if necessary.

Thanks but…Not At All :slight_smile: I just learned this from somebody else (but I unfortunately cannot remember from who exactly).

EDIT: I found the post where I learned this from @johnkprice :pray:

Many Thanks !!!

If anyone is interested, I added (also as video) the workflow to have second ending tie with correct playback in my previous post (again: I saw a similar method on the Forum in the past but I cannot find it anymore, so I recreated the workflow as reference).

Edit: found it thank’s to @Derrek :

is this the thread?

Thank you @Derrek ! I believe it is it,
with your post :slight_smile: :

I had forgotten that I had done it, but your solution sounded familiar.

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Yes :slight_smile: (and sorry)
I then expanded a little bit the method of playback correction: prolonging the note in key editor can so be adapted to every note length that exists after the second ending (using a second voice and using strategically suppress playback for the first and second pass on the two voices as shown in the video).

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No problem. Happy you found a way to improve it.

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