Hello Dorico team and personally @John_at_Steinberg,
I hope you are all doing well after Christmas! 
Would be really nice if we have Playback Template, and VE Pro Template for Cremona Quartet.
One of the most finest and realistic sounding libraries for solo instruments.
The video gives more details about the library.
Thank you in advance!
Stay healthy!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
We cannot produce playback templates for every virtual instrument. Perhaps you or another user would like to have a go at creating it?
I would also like a template for this VI, but I still don’t feel comfortable making one adequately. I’d be happy to pitch in a few bucks (quid?) if a more experienced user was willing to create one.
Dan hello and Merry Christmas!
Well, unfortunately the playback template creation will be a bit difficult. Some of the parameters
cannot be assigned to keyswitches, nor to CCs like “Fingered Legato, Bowed, Runs and Portamento”, as well as the Performance “High String, Smart and Low String”. The library sounds great, but the interface isn’t enough flexible and well designed…
The developers should make all the parameters CC assignable.
Best regards.
Thurisaz
String position is CC21, bow change through a keyswitch , portamento with higher velocity, vibrato CC15 etc – do I need to go on (this is from the manual on the cello) ? If a library was not programmable, it would be useless for anything other than live playing and probably wouldn’t sell. If it’s programmable in Logic or Cubase, it’s almost certainly programmable in Dorico the same basic way looking fairly briefly into the documentation that the CSS solo strings are. Despite being officially “incompatible”, I’m pretty happy with two large-scale works I programmed for CSS SS and see no reason why the same couldn’t be done for Cremona until someone proves the contrary.
Unfortunately, listening to the tutorial and demos, I think the sound is too cold for my taste though could work nicely for early music and there are some rather beautiful faster articulations.
@dko22 hello,
Well, some of the parameters are programmable but not all. For example “Con Sordino” isn’t factory assigned, nor even can be assigned to any controller… Would be far better if we can switch between “Fingered, Bowed, Runs and Portamento” by using CCs, this would reduce the number of library instances per instrument.
Surely they need to do some improvements on the interface.
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
I’m sure you’re right that there could be interface improvements, I’ve really just tried to familiarise myself with the basics. As for con sord, I can’t find a controller either. Obviously it takes several seconds to attach mutes so mostly entire movements or sections will be played in this way but how you’re supposed to record the changes in a DAW or Dorico on this one, I have no idea!
Obviously the developers should make any parameter which might change during the course of the work assignable in some way. I’m with you on that one.
@dspreadbury and @John_at_Steinberg hello,
I’m almost ready with the template for Cremona Quartet + VE Pro. There are just very few things that I can’t make them work. So, I will need just a little help from someone of you to fix the problems.
Тhe main problem is the Glissando/Portamento assignment. Unfortunately I can’t make it works.
I had tried to use “on events”, or “off events”, but I can’t make the expression map to trigger the Keyswitch for Sustain Portamento and Marcato Portamento.
Just tell me to whom I should send the files.
Тhank you very much in advance!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
You’re probably better off emailing John than me, since he’s much more experienced in working on playback templates than I am. However, I don’t think John actually has the Cremona Quartet library, so the extent to which he would be able to help might be limited by that. Anyway, you can drop him a line at j dot barron at steinberg dot de, but please be patient when it comes to a response. Everybody has been enjoying some welcome time off over the Christmas and New Year period and I’m sure he will have a hefty workload of things to work through when he returns to work next week.
Happy New Year, dear colleagues!
I wish long life, good health, happiness, music, passion and success to all of you!
Here is my present for you:
Template for the awesome Cremona String Quartet Library.
The whole needed information could be found in the Cremona Quartet and VE Pro README.pdf
Here is the zip file which includes - Project, VE Pro Template, Dorico Playback Template and README:
Cremona String Quartet + VE Pro Playback Template
The zip file is bigger than the size allowed by the forum, so it is uploaded on Dropbox
N.B: 24.01.2021 - I did an Expression Maps and Playback Template update /Legato+Thrill (half -step) and Legato+Thrill (whole-step)/
Cremona String Quartet EM_PT.zip (8.3 KB)
I wish successful year to all of you!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
Thanks, Thurisaz. This is so generous of you!
Uploaded for you here: Dorico + Cremona Quartet.doricolib
Cremona Quartet.doricolib.zip (2.1 KB)
In KONTAKT:
Set Dynamic to CONTROLLER, not Velocity.
Preset mapping for Stradivari and Guarneri Violin:
Natural C1
Detache bowed D1
Staccato E1
Pizz. F1
Preset mapping for Amati Viola:
Natural C0
Detache bowed D0
Staccato E0
Pizz. F0
Preset mapping for Amati Viola:
Natural C-1
Detache bowed D-1
Staccato E-1
Pizz. F-1
Other settings can be adjusted individually. Make sure that the playing style is assigned to the correct keyswitch under Expression maps in Dorico.
In DORICO:
Import under expression maps the file i have uploaded above.
Check there if Volume Dynamics are set to Control Change: 1.
Under PLAY set MIDI CC11 per each instrument for playing instructions.
Also check on the right, under VST Instruments and assign the individual expression maps to KONTAKT for each instrument.
Attention: When changing the playing style, notate the dynamics! This is because it does not take over the dynamics of the previous playing style.
I’ve just spent three days to figure this all out, as i just started to work with external VSTs. So please excuse me, if something is not quite correct.
Have fun!
lisa
Hello @Lisa_Mo,
Pretty nice that you had spent some time working on another template for Cremona Quartet!
You didn’t have wasting your time on doing it. The only thing you needed to do is follow the README for the template created by me, to map the articulations exactly as they are on the screenshots in the document and use the Updated playback template.
These steps can be done even for creation of a smaller template, because the one I had created is full and takes more than 34GB of RAM. The one created by you looks much smaller, according to the list of techniques.
Thank you for providing an alternative template for this library!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz