More votes for Voting System, please

Have you reviewed your votes? https://forums.steinberg.net/u/nico5/activity/votes

IPS is not coming back, for example.

Heh! no.

Yes I did - are you implying I can “unvote” a lower priority item and replace it later with something I deem more important?

@Nico5 Yes, even more than implying, I’m saying. :smiley:

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Thanks @steve !

In that case, I will give up on the IPS :crazy_face:

But I still think it was mega cool! :sunglasses:

@Nico5 IPS? Whats that? :thinking:

Yes but here we are again.

If you take a look at my votes i.e.:

These are mostly “bigger” topics, but one, which is the hitpoint thing, and I use this quantization daily. There is no vote I can free up, as they are all equally important (to me). 4 of these have to do with the stability and efficiency of the program and only two of them are new features.

There are just no votes left for all the smaller inconsistencies and suggestions. @Louis_R created a WIKI for that purpose (thank you Louis), where you can see lots of handy FRs (and also Issues), which would really save lots of time when implemented. But there are just not enough votes to give them all their attention:

[WIKI] [Cubase 12.0.30] Issues and Feature Requests – user editable - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Apart from that, there is another list I put together of smaller FRs and inconsistencies here:

Summary

Instrument Tracks & VST Tracks with mutiple outputs share track name with channel 1 output - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Divided track list: adjust height automatically to the tracks it contains - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Plugin scan path settings reset themselves after reopening Cubase - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Talkback always disabled after Cubase restart - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

CTRL+SELECT not working for arranger events - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Selecting events/tracks in project window does not unselect events/tracks in divided track list - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Allow dragging files from Pool Trash into track - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Export Settings saved with Project File - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Link Variaudio editor to project (like it is possible with the midi editor) - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Set output of instrument channel - too complicated, not intuitive - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Switching mono to stereo - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Feaure Request-> Please consider to add routing to the track preset - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Export tracks as they are (mono/stereo) - additional export audio mode - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Option to move locked tracks+events when “Insert Silence” or copying, pasting, cutting ranges - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

When Recording: Turn on/off cycle loop and editing locator range not possible - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

Let us cut the notes in variaudio where we want - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

So my question: Why not giving everyone unlimited votes (max. one vote per FR obviously)?
If someone thinks a certain FR is a good idea, why can’t he give it a vote, without having to delete one of his other votes somewhere else?

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Because the votes are not a steinberg forum thing, but a discourse thing. Their use is a bit different.

For example: a thread is created “I’m buying from Thomann tommorow. Anyone want a set of .10-.46?” Anyone who wants a set votes. I place my order, I close the thread, all votes are returned to the voters, so that they can use them again.

With feature requests, it’s difficult to do. We’d either have to have a steinberg employ shoot down requests immediately and close the threads, or indirectly “confirm” that the requests are actively being worked upon, which I think is not how Steinberg works, they usually like to keep new features undisclosed until release.

Soooo, we’re in this situation where we have all our votes placed, and hope a feature will be implemented, and the relevant topic closed, so that we get our vote back.

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Or they just give us 9999999 votes and we’re all good and can vote for threads we think are important.

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That is actually something that could be very much improved upon by Steinberg, communication-wise… There is rarely ever any official feedback on feature requests. Yes, we heard that they are all collected by Steinberg in their internal FR list, but it would be nice just to get a little bit of feedback. I am aware that no one can or will commit to anything like “this will be included in 12.5”, but just some little acknowledgement would be cool, like “Yes, we’ve seen this FR, but it is not that easy to implement for the following reasons: …” or whatever. Even something like “Sorry, at the moment we don’t think that this fits our vision for Cubase, but let’s see how many people request it” is better than nothing.
There are some long running feature request with dozens of votes that never got implemented.
I think transparency in communication is very important in these days, and a lot of people can be very understanding if they get a proper explanation or just some feedback.

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Is there any way of viewing the most voted requests? Be curious to see what kind of votes the top ones have… And indeed what they are.

Edit: Oh, I think it could be this actually:
https://forums.steinberg.net/search?expanded=true&q=tags%3Afeature-request%20order%3Avotes

It’s kinda funny that the 8th one in that list is Matthias telling people how to use votes! :slight_smile:

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@Tj99 , @fese I agree on every point.

We could, as a community, establish a norm where when folks initially create a Feature Request they include a Poll that measures the support for the idea.

  • Yikes what a grand idea!
  • Sounds complicated, remember we’re just musicians.
  • Anyone see the drummer lately?

0 voters

(POLL FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY)

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I gave up on the voting system, as it seems to be a joke on users.

There shouldn’t be any limit on votes, that’s all.

What mockery is this, that on a forum that discusses multiple professional software apps, each very complex, a user has just a few votes? What is the logic of this?
One can easily own more Steinberg products than available votes. Where does this leave the user? One vote for Nuendo, one for Groove agent, one for Halion, one for SpectraLayers etc…

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Yeah, I get your point, but even the best idea won’t help, as long as SB does not recognize it. We can do these polls, but if SB looks only at votes, this will not help either…

I don’t think they do that at all. The voting system on Discourse is clearly not designed to identify the relative popularity of a large number of different proposals. I can’t imagine the Steinberg folks are unaware of that.

Personally I think the only people who look at the votes are those under the illusion that the votes are used for anything.

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One on the always growing list of Cubase features that Steinberg has abandoned over the years:

Well, according to Steinbergs official statement, they very well take them into consideration.

“Some of you may have noticed the “Vote” function in our new forum. I would like to encourage you to use your votes to let us know what your priorities are in the “Feature Request” category.”

Vote for your most important feature request topics! - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

And if you took a look at the feedback forms of the last couple of years, the most voted feature requests where included in the list, where you could sort upcoming features by priority.

@steve
Just out of curiosity:

How does this work here? Since this here most probably has nothing to do with the feature request procedure on the other side of the forum, has nothing to do with a specific Steinberg program and is a bit of a special request?
Will there be a statement somewhen by someone in charge for the forum?

@steve
Are there any news to this?
I mean, we as a community can discuss about this day and night, but as long as there is nothing coming from SB, this discussion somehow leads to nothing.

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Steinberg should implement an IdeaScale, which is a specialized forum for feature requests.
Yamaha has one for their synthesizers, and so do Line6.
Very good and creates a dedicated place for suggestions, discussions and involvement of Steinberg people as well.

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